One thing I've noticed about mass transit in the Valley is the money wasted on that train.  The train only goes where there are tracks.  Instead of taking multiple lanes from traffic to put in the rails for the train, buses surely would have been a better solution.  A bus can go anywhere.  If a wreck blocks a road, the bus can take an alternate route.  The train is stuck until the wreck is cleared from the tracks.  Some event causes an increased demand on a route, more buses can be easily added.  I remember when politicians were talking about the rail before it was built. They were saying it would cost $40 million a mile.  $40 million is a helluva lot of buses, and we know government projects always end up costing way more than what the proponents say it will when they want the suckers (voters) to vote for it.

On 6/22/23 22:01, Matthew Crews via PLUG-discuss wrote:
As a life long Arizonan, I can say that, without even reading the article, it's full of crap.

If Phoenix wants to be considered a city of the future, it needs to embrace dense urban planning (and get rid of this ridiculous urban sprawl), have an actual functional mass transit system, have actual (and affordable) entertainment, and be an actually good place to raise a family (which means schools that are worth a damn, walkable neighborhoods, family friendly entertainment, and a halfway decent medical system).

Right now the only thing still anchoring me to Arizona is a decent paying job. If that job ever goes away (more like when than if) then I will be looking for a better place to live.

-Matt


On 6/22/23 09:01, Keith Smith via PLUG-discuss wrote:
Hi,

Came upon this article that sounds interesting. https://www.axios.com/2023/06/21/phoenix-chips-cars

I posted an article a while ago about a class that was being offered to teach chip making skills (if I recall correctly).

Any thoughts on how this will help/effect Linux folks... Open Source people... etc?

Are we going to become Austin, TX where I hear the city is over populated... freeways are over crowed... etc?

Is there a shift from Silicon Valley?

How is this going to effect us?  What are the opportunities?

Keith
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