In a time where most homes have no land line ane 5 cell phones voip
can be verry useful. I personaly haven't had a real phone line in
years. I wouldn't use the magic jack personally but I have about $2000
worth of various voip gear in my house. I also do verry little
outbound calling. I have a 2 free did's that terminate in to my
system. I have hacks and scripts that allow me to do mosof my outbound
calling free as well. I just got a google voice account which allows
me to do free calling as well this is all cheaper than the magic jack
service. I think its a neat option for the non technical. My father in
law is as bad as it gets with computers and I didn't get asked at all
to help him install it. If you are even mildly more technical there is
no reason to pay for anything phone related.

On 7/12/09, Lisa Kachold <lisakach...@obnosis.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:34 PM, mike Enriquez<myli...@cox.net> wrote:
>> I  saw  a demo of Magic Jack which a USB thumb drive like device that
>> lets you plug in a telephone jack and make all your phone calls via the
>> internet.It claims to work only on windows.
>> They claim that the annual fee is $20.00. Does anyone on the list know
>> if this is available on Linux or something else exist that is similar.
>> Boy, I like the price of $20.00 per year to make all my phone calls.
>> Thanks
>> Mike Enriquez
>>
>>
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> Hello Mike!
>
> The utilization issues for all VOIP, IAX systems replacing land line
> phones include networking complexity, security and E-911 issues,
> wherein emergency services can immediately verify your address.  I
> wrote the PHP/SQL extension to the Affinity Voip Telecom SER switch
> for their E-911 registration process so I have a good idea that most
> people are not bothering to register their VOIP service; E911 is a
> federal VOIP requirement at the provider level, however must be
> maintained by the user at the time of service registration.
>
> The network issues with all VOIP, IAX2 include NAT traversal which can
> add more than a little bit of instability during setup and when the
> network chances or is reset.
>
> I am curious as to why anyone would even sanely consider buying a USB
> "device", when you can easily use softphones like Ekiga (with a PSTN
> VOIP trunk from axvoice.com $9.99 a month for instance) or Skype
> ($30.00 unlimited a year)?
> Skype allows you to skype2twitter; your incoming calls can be
> forwarded and recorded, various other cool voice analysis plugins are
> available, etc.
>
> https://extras.skype.com/
> http://www.asteriskvoipnews.com/skype/5_most_useful_plugins_for_skype.html
>
> There's an article/review that mirrors my sentiment exactly saying,
> quote:  "there's a whiff of sleaze about it all".
> http://www.boston.com/business/technology/articles/2009/03/12/magicjack_far_from_enchanting/
>
> Having built (and used home based and professional solutions) Trixbox,
> SER, and Asterisk for AffinityVoip, GST Telecommunications,
> Skymall.com and maintained intelligent dialers, programmed and
> administered a Stromberg Carlson DCO, I am fairly well versed in VOIP
> and I just have to ask "Why MagicJack"?  and "Where's the Magic"?
>
> Why have essentially a client running on a USB key?  ...scratch
> head...  When you can have it on your computer?
> There are a great many hardware based solutions also around $30.00
> (which is what the USB client will cost you after you pay for your
> $30.00 a year throughput fees):
>
> Grandstream ATA's:
> http://www.grandstream.com/products/ht_series/ht503/ht503.html
> http://www.grandstream.com/products/ht_series/ht486/ht486.html
> (axvoice.com ships one of these with signup)
>
>
> Of course, in a disaster situation, where power goes out, your client
> will not work, unless you have your phone tethered to your battery
> laptop running your client.   And it's certainly a great deal easier
> to just have a client, since USB devices are not many on most
> notebooks and it's not exactly the best time to be troubleshooting
> UDP/NAT Stun traversal settings, during a disaster?
>
> (In the old days with our digital PSTN POTS lines with 20 feet
> "wireless answering machine phones", we had to get a plain butt-set to
> make calls during power failure, but at least they still worked
> usually.)   Hardware based VOIP phones, don't!
>
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