I'm curious who pays for the German public health system.  Someone pays.  And 
is there rationing?

The Canadian system is said to be good until you dig a little.  They have 
rationing.  Canada also has a very high tax rate.

Under the proposed system the costs are paid in many ways.  This is so we will 
not be fully aware of the cost.  For example someone wrote that we will be 
taxed at 3.8% on a house sale.  For a $150,000 home that would be $5,700.  
Think about that, that is your wealth.  And I read there will be an added 
payroll tax of 8%.  If you make $50k a year that is $4,000 a year for just one 
person.  That money is going to come from somewhere.  Either direct tax or 
reduced pay if shared by your employer.

The Government is good at hiding how much you are taxed.  Look at your W2.  
Your employer pays SSI + Medicare for you and so do you.  It is a combined 
15.3%.  You do not feel it because it is a little every payday.

It is said the average tax payer (only 50% of Americans pay taxes) pays about 
50% of what they make in taxes.

Recently at Frys Electronics I paid 9.1% sails tax.  Yikes! 

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Keith Smith

--- On Sat, 8/28/10, der.hans <pl...@lufthans.com> wrote:

From: der.hans <pl...@lufthans.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Self Employed Health Insurance Costs and Coverage
To: "Main PLUG discussion list" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 11:32 PM

Am 28. Aug, 2010 schwätzte Steve Holmes so:

moin moin,

> Sorry for the politics, but I think we need a good strong single payer
> system like they have in Germany; I always heard that their system was
> quite excellent.

I was quite happy with Germany's system. I didn't need to use it much, but
did have a couple of emergencies. Care was good. I think there was less
pain management than in the US, but that didn't bother me too much. OTOH,
I know people who had what I'd consider to be extreme precautions as part
of their medical care. Maybe the lack of pain mgt was because I didn't
complain or exhibit great concern about the pain I was in. It was quite
inexpensive despite having to see Dr. Fee :).

ciao,

der.hans
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