It's the Zen of Troubleshooting! The error is the answer. Basically, this means that you might verify that the files exist in the paths setup in Grub?
I would just redo it all myself. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Steve Holmes <st...@holmesgrown.com> wrote: > Yeah, I'm not sure what to do next. Next time I have someone around > to look at my screen, I'll have to get into the grub shell at boot > time and see if I can probe available devices and maybe manually force > the boot/kernel line and see where it blows. Originally the message > was an error code 15 or 17 and further stated that it couldn't find > any of the kernel files like vmlinuz and yet they are there where they > should be expected. So grub is failing before any other actions can > be taken. > > On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 10:00:11AM -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > Hi Steve! > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Steve Holmes <st...@holmesgrown.com > >wrote: > > > > > The drive boots after all but only as far as grub. I found out > > > earlier today that the grub menu comes up but it fails to find the > > > file systems for booting the actual system. It looks like I will have > > > to rebuild the grub configuration or something. So yes, you're right; > > > the drive should boot and the MBR does work; it's just the rest of it > > > that doesn't but that sounds more like a grub issue now rather than > > > booting from the USB drive. Somehow while preparing this disk with > > > the Arch Linux installer, I think grub's identification of drives may > > > have been off or something. I almost wrecked my windows internal disk > > > doing this some how but at least I salvaged that for now so I need to > > > walk on some egg shells while doing this I guess. > > > > > > > Yea! I have had terrible luck with all but the MANUAL directions on > > building systems: > > > > Steps: > > fdisk - (partition/fstype/bootableflag) > > mkfs > > grub > > > > All available from any linux system. > > > > If you are building a Slax system, you want to google slax bootable USB > > directions (which will be the same). > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 05:34:31PM -0700, Lisa Kachold wrote: > > > > If the drive is bootable, it will boot. > > > > > > > > Check the bios to ensure you have allowed boot from bios, and use > spare > > > > systems before rebuilding your drive. > > > > > > > > You should be able to fdisk -l /dev/sdN (or whatever it is) plugged > in > > > and > > > > verify the boot. You should be able to verify your MBR and GRUB > settings > > > > also. You can always REPEAT setting up the MBR? > > > > > > > > If you can't boot it, it's not built. > > > > > > > > Rebuild with a better set of instructions! > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Stephen <cryptwo...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > newer machines should be able to boot directly to USB hdd just > fine... > > > > > just never have had a drive that really worked with that. > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 9:24 AM, Steve Holmes < > st...@holmesgrown.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > That's rather annoying when some drive manufacturer forces us to > > > leave > > > > > > their junk on the drive when we wish to do otherwise with it. > > > > > > Actually, my drive came out of an old laptop and I stuck it > inside a > > > > > > portable drive enclosure so I would think we should be able to > boot > > > > > > with it. I used grub to make this disk bootable or at least > attempt > > > > > > to do so. > > > > > > > > > > > > I might have to do a grub-install to the /dev/sda MBR but I > hesitate > > > > > > to do so at the moment. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 07:25:08AM -0700, Stephen wrote: > > > > > >> I have an external drive that has the same issue. in my case > there > > > is > > > > > >> a small "firmware" that resides on the USB-PATA bridge that has > > > about > > > > > >> 3-400 MB of stuff on it and mounts as a CD. this definitely > fouled > > > all > > > > > >> my attempts at booting to the device. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:23 AM, Steve Holmes < > > > st...@holmesgrown.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > I got a new machine which (of course) has Windows > pre-installed > > > and > > > > > >> > I'm not ready to dump it entirely just yet so in the meantime, > I > > > built > > > > > >> > out a complete Arch Linux 64-bit system on a portable USB > external > > > > > >> > drive. I also used or tried to use grub to set it up to boot. > > > During > > > > > >> > the original settup session, it appeared to do all this OK but > I > > > can't > > > > > >> > get the laptop to recognize or boot from this device. I did > not > > > > > >> > modify the master boot record on my laptop; instead, I figured > on > > > > > >> > using the boot menu on the laptop to choose the USB drive; > this > > > method > > > > > >> > works beautifully with an ISO image I burned to a small > thumbdrive > > > but > > > > > >> > I cannot do the same with my larger USB portable drive on > which I > > > > > >> > installed Arch Linux. Do I have to do anything else to make > this > > > > > >> > thing bootable? > > > > > >> > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > > >> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent > you > > > from > > > > > >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze > > > button. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Stephen > > > > > >> --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you > from > > > > > rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze > button. > > > > > > > > > > Stephen > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Network Operations Center Engineer > > > > Atjeu Hosting > > > > > > > > (503) 754-4452 > > > > (623) 688-3392 > > > > > > > > http://www.it-clowns.com | http://www.obnosis.com > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Network Operations Center Engineer > > Atjeu Hosting > > > > (503) 754-4452 > > (623) 688-3392 > > > > http://www.it-clowns.com | http://www.obnosis.com > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- Network Operations Center Engineer Atjeu Hosting (503) 754-4452 (623) 688-3392 http://www.it-clowns.com | http://www.obnosis.com
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