XP's desktop doesn't hit the gpu - this started in the redheaded bastard
known as vista. Most xp functions and codecs don't either. Linux will
by default now with compiz, video rendering, lots of things.
-mb
On 11/11/2011 09:49 PM, Derek Trotter wrote:
This is something I hadn't heard before. Thanks for letting me know. If
this is the problem, there's one thing I don't understand. Why do I not
have any problems when the machine is running XP?
On 11/11/2011 21:28, Michael Butash wrote:
You might be dealing with hardware issues. I've not seen that kind of
problem in my laptop with that chip under solid use for 4 years until
it gave up the ghost. I had an 8400 in my dell laptop, and those had
serious and well known (read: class-action lawsuit) on that chipset
for defective chips. BGA chip use began that generation for nvidia and
ati, and they're notorious horrible at popping off and losing
conductivity also into the 9600 series. Read about a like issue,
something called RRoD in xbox360 or YLoD in ps3's for the same reason...
When my laptop began dying from this, 2d desktop would work great
until something hit the gpu, and artifacting would begin instantly but
still *kinda* work. Sounds like playing a video is hitting vdpau (most
video engines default to using this if available, thus hitting gpu
shaders, and locking. Desktop compositing probably likewise causes
this with complexity due to hitting gpu.
That kind of hard lock could be driver related, but sketchy hardware
is often the cause too, especially with that genre of gpu.
-mb
On 11/11/2011 01:52 PM, Stephen wrote:
If you want to try an alternate Graphics card i do have some AGP cards
floating about still.
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:23 AM, Derek Trotter
<expat.arizo...@gmail.com> wrote:
Good idea, but the motherboard does not have a video card onboard.
The bios
does have a setting to set the primary video adapter as AGP or PCI.
It's
set to PCI.
Thanks for taking the time to write your suggestion.
Derek
On 11/11/2011 07:44 AM, Stephen wrote:
Something to consider in some CMOS you can have settings that choose a
preferred video card, and sometimes on-board video is not disabled
fully. some Intel boards are notorious for this.
Look in your settings and see what you can find. this may help. I had
one helluva time with PCI-e graphics and Ubuntu for a while back in
the 8.xx days with this.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:38 PM, Derek
Trotter<expat.arizo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
It happens whether or not I'm playing a video. Most of the videos I
watch
are not flash videos. They're mostly avi files with xvid, but some
were
mpeg1 or mpeg2. I used vlc to play them.
On 11/10/2011 16:32, Dazed_75 wrote:
All of your issues sound like they happen when playing videos. Is
that
true
or are there other times as well?
As far as what else it could be, there could be lots of
possibilities but
they might be hard to track down to elements that are common to
Ubuntu,
Kubuntu, and Fedora. If it is localized to playing videos, I would
certainly be suspicious of the command line based underpinnings the
players
might use. Oh, and are the videos Flash based or not?
If you are coming to the meeting tonight and can come to the
restaurant
after, someone there may be able to help.
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Derek
Trotter<expat.arizo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On 11/10/2011 16:10, Dazed_75 wrote:
Try looking to see if you are using the open source generic nvidia
driver
or the proprietary one. I am not sure where that is in the Kubuntu
menus
but look for something in System, or Administration with a name
that is
probably something about Hardware. It should run a program that
looks
to
see if there are proprietary drivers you might choose to use.
When I first installed the os I noticed the problem with the
driver it
came with. I checked and found where it suggested a proprietary
driver
and
offered one other. I chose the one that was recommended. The bug
showed
itself with the driver that came with the install and the one I
installed
later.
I AM curious though if you have some particular reason for
suspecting it
is due to you having that video card since a screen freeze could be
something above the driver level.
I've had that card for about 2 years while the machine was
running XP
and
didn't have this problem. It only showed itself after I installed
the
latest Ubuntu and Kubuntu version as well as the other latest linux
flavors
I mentioned earlier. Fedora 15 was the worst. It would freeze the
screen
as soon as I started playing a video. The others would let me
watch at
least for a few minutes before the screen froze.
Also if it's not a driver problem, what else could it be?
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Derek
Trotter<expat.arizo...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I have an NVIDIA Geforce 8400 GS card that plugs into a PCI slot. I
have
no problems with it in XP, but when I installed Kubuntu 11.10 I
found a
problem. Occasionally the screen freezes. I can't switch to a
console.
Also I can't kill the x server. I know the machine has not
completely
locked up because when I have audio playing, it keeps playing even
though
the screen has frozen. None of the usual means to shut down a
machine
work.
The only thing I can do is hit the reset button, press the power
switch for
several seconds until the machine shuts off, or pull the plug. I've
encountered this on Ubuntu 11.10, Kubuntu 11.10, Mepis 11 and
Fedora
15. I
installed the LTS verson of Kubuntu 10 and haven't had any problems
with it.
Does anyone have any idea what's going on or how to fix it?
Thanks
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