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On Monday 12 October 2015 09:48 AM, Thin Rhino wrote:
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I have never understood the noise around <My>Linux & <Your>Linux! I visited
their websites and the only thing,
different is screenshots with Indian Languages. Everything else, is just
the same that comes with Ubuntu or Fedora.
Same old open office, same old GNome / KDE.
As I see this, take source code from the web compile it, re-brand it and
gloat about it is made in/for India etc.
I would rather have you good people spend time & effort in distributing
Ubuntu or Fedora or any other OS to
people and teach people to write good code using these tools. Who cares,
what OS you are using?
Dear Thin Rhino,
Please don't use euphemisms . If you want to say something about
somebody put it straight.
I do not agree with you however. Whole lot of people including my own
self care about which OS we use. If it was going to be just Ubuntu and
Fedora we might as well as use MS-Windows, as you yourself said who
cares which OS you are using.
Some established distributions which bought whole lot of things :-
a. Debian - If Debian is/was not there, then Ubuntu wouldn't have been
there in the first place. There is still whole lot of heavy lifting that
Debian does that Ubuntu profits from. If Debian would not be there then
you would have not have Ubuntu in the first place and would have quite a
bit poorer experience if Debian would cease to exist.
b. Linux Mint - The Mint Installer and quite a few packages that Mint
bought made it much easier for newbies. It was also a fork.
c. Gentoo, Arch, BSD's all have contributed something or the other.
As you have posted about the Indian contributions or lack of, even if
just themeing is the improvement, even if agree on that, as far as it
brings in people who are able to work and use GNU/Linux (no matter what
parent distribution is underneath ) that's a win-win for both the
distribution which did that and people who are able to gain or do
something with it.
Principally, I would not go with Ubuntu simply because of the
GPL+contrib . It is not a good license and is being used by
Canonical/Mark in poisoning the waters. I could never understand why
GPL2 or GPLv3 wasn't good enough for them and they had to bring in
GPLv2+contrib or GPLv3+contrib and variants.
You want to stop Facebook Zero and all that? Get people to access the
internet and show them the power of
free and open source, not by distributing some customised copy of Linux.
But by showing how, the free and
open web and free and open tools, can help them live a better life.
we are doing that as part of outreach either in individual capacity or
as part of hamara.
In 2015, writing / rewriting / re branding an OS is biggest waste of time,
effort, talent and money.
Not necessarily. If the idea of GNU/Linux were to some sort of oligopoly
(where only the chosen few could take part) then GNU/Linux would simply
fall apart.
The reason it has thrived is because people have their own itch to
scratch whether it is just making themes or whatever else, it has
improved and added to GNU/Linux overall.
You want to spread FOSS, build something like this
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/4hVG2Br1W1LKCmw8nSm9WnQ/introducing-the-bbc-micro-bit
and educate people how programming using open source tools can be fun.
While I laud that effort, do you mean to say there is nothing that needs
to be done on the software front ?
I could at least state a dozen things we need to improve on existing
tools and toolkits as well as documentation, UI etc.
There is lots and lots of things that need improvement.
Another thing to point, the RPI has limited freedom, the Beaglebone
Black and few others has much more in terms of freedom.
It would be interesting as and when they come with updated specs as
right now RPi is king of hill as far as pricing and features are concerned.
Lastly, on the topic of missing e-mails I saw that gmail does miss out
mails of plug (searched in PLUG, Inbox and Spam) some e-mails are not
there, whereas if you use a mail client then everything is in order.
Cheers
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