AMEN to that fooler!

BSD is dying!

On 2/11/07, fooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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From: "Dean Michael Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [plug] [OT] NetBSD 3.1 LiveCD r o c k s !


> The conclusion here is UFS sucks because it by design is flawed.
> Nothing more, nothing less. And since the BSD kernel still uses it by
> default shows how much better Linux has become as far as being
> technically superior is concerned.

yeah it sucks because sunOS/solaris, system V release 4, HP-UX, tru64 unix
just to name a few used UFS for their filesystem... it even extended by
these commercial unix vendors by adding some proprietary extensions to take
advantage of it... sun microsystem created UFS logging which brought
filesystem journaling to UFS...in fact the native linux ext2 filesystem was
inspired by UFS... yeah right UFS sucks because these commercial unix
vendors used UFS....

your sync problem is not caused by UFS per se.... neither the sync() api
itself... i dont want to explain this further.. it was properly documented
on the freebsd site... i just want you to find out why...

> As for the SMP code being new, that shows how slow the development is
> in the BSD kernel trees and how way ahead Linux kernel development is
> as far as symmetric multi-processing is concerned.

not slow really... this is due because of the Giant lock originally designed
to all sub-systems of  freebsd system that it takes major overhaul of the
entire kernel to convert from giant lock to fine-grained locking... they
working on  KSE 1:1 and M:N threading... freebsd SMP architecture has been
significantly impacted by the design and implementation strategies of the
solaris operating system which is the leader when it comes to  SMP
technology... wait and see when prime time comes for freebsd SMP...


> Why should I bother, when I can get the latest and greatest
> technically superior solutions in Linux?

hehehehe you made a ridiculous statement here... there is no such thing as
*greatest* technically superior solutions in linux.. there is *only* a
better solution for your needs in linux... is linux the greatest technically
superior solution for .NET environment?

> If you actually care to check, Linux kernel development has been
> better than ever. 2.6.20 is coming out soon, and packs more than any
> other OS kernel can even pronounce.

hehehehe another ridiculous statement.... would you like this to compare
with microsoft operating system?

> That being said, on technical merits Linux will always IMNSHO beat any
> BSD kernel in aspects that matter: performance, stability, and
> efficiency.

yeah right.. that is why netcraft stats says that for the number of
consecutive years the most reliable and stable servers are still freebsd...

> If you want to argue, show me code and let's see which technical
> solution is better than the other. Then tell me again why BSD is
> better than Linux.

i dont want to argue this.. i just want to encourage you to know the
strengths of the BSD family as the orignal poster made a statement why bsd
rocks!

i just want to say something about operating system... there is no such
thing as the greatest or perfect operating system.... simply because
operating systems are made thru design decisions based on *trade-offs*...
trade-off such as *time versus space* for example just to name a few... if
there is a trade-off.. there will be no perfect nor the greatest OS will
ever exist on this planet... that is why there is always a pros and cons for
every operating system..

with regards to bsd family... freebsd has a long standing reputation as
providing both high performance network facilities and high levels of
stability especially under high loads... openbsd aims  for strong security
and code purity... netbsd aims for maximum portability to other hardware...
dragonflybsd aims for high performance and scalability from UP to SMP..

oh.. for linux fanatics here... i just want you to know that BSD is Dying...
:->
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7833143728685685343

fooler.
P.S. our akamai servers just arrived last week and guess what OS has been
used? it's openbsd!
+ for every problem, there is a solution that is simple, elegant and wrong.




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