This is so cool.  If this is the case I can make my own handheld software
that will interface with whatever I choose as desktop application, in case a
handheld version is not available.  When do you think we can expect these
phones to hit the Philippine market?

Thanks!

Johann

On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 11:05 PM, thad <[email protected]> wrote:

> Most smrtphone comes out with with CD for user to install various
> softwares like for synching and G1 doesn't have it. I got mine a few
> week ago and install some free apps over cloud from market, the first
> thing I tried is the terminal emulator and its jailed, here is a
> sample snip:
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> $ ls
>  sqlite_stmt_journals
>  cache
>  sdcard
>  etc
>  init
>  default.prop
>  logo.rle
>  init.trout.rc
>  system
>  data
>  sys
>  proc
>  init.goldfish.rc
>  init.rc
>  sbin
>  root
>  dev
>  $ ^[[D^[[C^[[C^[[A^[[B^[[D
>  : permission denied
>  $ ^[[Bls
>
> ls: permission denied
>  $ ls -la
>  -la: No such file or directory
>  $ pwd
>  /
>  $ ^[[Bl
>  l: permission denied
>  $ ls -la /sbin
>  -la: No such file or directory
>  opendir failed, Permission denied
>  $ ^[[Ase^[[B
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> I think Migs got his phone from Google's developer edition which most
> like its not jailed for development purposes. Mine is from T-Mobile so
> its a consumer model and locked down.... I will try jailbreak this
> anytime and install Debian soon....
>
> And don't think it's UI is bad as I heard from most Iphone fanatics.
> Some killer apps in Market I like is ShopSavvy that turn the camera
> into barcode scanner and it will get a quote from the Internet for
> cheaper source of the scanned product both local and internet stores.
> Stock Quote is also great it gives almost real time stock market
> transactions pulled from Yahoo Finance. For twitter I use twidroid,
> very much decent but the Facebook apps, its a trash fork of Iphone
> facebook apps, mobile photo upload don't work at all.
>
> Also the java implementation is very much optimized than j2me. I
> remember my dead crackberry's j2me garbage collection implementation
> is by physically pulling out the battery.
>
> I agree with Migs this is more computer and I will not be surprised if
> this GPhone will be used in the future for more handheld centric
> device applications.
>
>
> Fred Allen  - "Television is a medium because anything well done is rare."
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:33 AM, Miguel Paraz <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Erwin Olario <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> 4. I've had no problems with SE phones but I'm looking forward to the
> next
> >> generation Android phones. Being linux based, I'm crossing my fingers
> that
> >> they're easier to work with on Linux.
> >
> > Actually, based on the T-Mobile G1, Android phones work with any OS,
> > or none at all.
> >
> > They don't sync with the PC. They sync "over the cloud" (WiFi or 3G).
> > The USB cable is only for mass storage, debugging, firmware updates,
> > and charging the battery.
> >
> > Arguably, the Android device is not a "smartphone" - it's a computer
> > with phone features.
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