winefred, i also stand corrected.

You are right of course in saying that roughly 35% of revenue is new
license sales. Or about $1.5B of the $7B which oracle booked in the
just-concluded quarter.

Here's the thing --- all installed oracle customers must pay an annual
support contract equal to 22% of the original license cost. This
entitles them to free updates and access to fixes/patches for as long
as they maintain the contract.

As you can imagine, this support fee is considerable, it's like buying
a new set of licenses every 5 years  -- and paying this support does
NOT entitle you to onsite support. So strictly speaking this is
support & services revenue but it's "by default" -- it comes in
whether or not a new sale is made.

Lots of customers let their support contracts lapse because of the
cost -- they say "i'm paying millions a year but if i want onsite
support i have to pay even more??!!!" but if you're off support and
hit a business-killing bug, you're in trouble.

In any case, Oracle is a very different company today than in 2004.
The large acquisitions -- PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, Siebel Systems,
Hyperion, BEA -- all happened in 2005 onwards. Oracle today is not
just #1 in database, but #1 is middleware, enterprise HR (Peoplesoft)
and CRM (Siebel).

On 3/26/09, Winelfred G. Pasamba <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Orlando Andico <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>> of course we know that the percent of product revenue is going down in
>>> comparison to support revenue, except maybe for microsoft and adobe.*
>>
>> This is not true. The bulk of Oracle's revenue still comes from license
>> sales.
>
> i'm looking at professor cusumano's book copyrighted 2004.  he claims
> that oracle's 2003 income statement says that the company made $9,475M
> in revenues and that 35% is from new license fees and 65% is from
> services & maintenance.  so there has to be an explanation between
> your authoritative statement and his interpretation.
>
>
>>> is it still true that IBM is still the largest database vendor?*
>>
>> This has not been true for at least ten years.
>
> my mistake. it is not largest database vendor. IBM is #1 in Software
> Magazine's Top Fifty Software Companies (2002) with $47,895M in
> software and services revenues. ms is 24,666, eds 21,543, accenture
> 13,348, and oracle 10,860 (all in millions of dollars).
>
> ibm's total revenues in 2002 was 81,186 including hardware (27,456),
> other (4,296), services (36,360) and software (13,074).
>
> anyway it is nice to know that the big guys are backing linux and that
> these big guys are somehow making free versions of their great
> products which adds to the flavors of databases we can choose from.
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