Hi Sir,

Not to sound repetitive but can you please read CenPEG's petition if
you haven't? If you already did, can you please read it again with
comprehension?

http://www.cenpeg.org/POL%20PARTIES%20AND%20ELECTIONS/OCT%202009/Petition%20for%20Mandamus.pdf

The petition is for the release of source code for review. There is no
argument in the petition that comes close to mentioning the method/s
of testing the AES's integrity.

It's understandable if you've mixed up things.

Cheers,
JP

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 10:33, Oscar Plameras <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 1:24 PM, Pablo Manalastas
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Can you define "crucial argument"?  I do not see that CenPEG has no crucial 
>> argument, whatever that means.  CenPEG will not go to the Supreme Court and 
>> waste the time of the SC Justices if it does not have a crucial argument!  
>> One of the country's best lawyers, Pimentel (bar topnotcher from Ateneo/UP) 
>> and Joaquin will not waste their time on a case without crucial argument.
>>
>
> I though that I had defined this already very clearly.
>
> Anyway, in the "Roque" case the "crucial argument" was that "Pilot Testing"
> was the only way to achieve the conclusion that was designed for it. It
> can't be substituted by another process.
>
> In the "CenPeg" case, "Source Code Review" is not the only way to be
> assured of the integrity of the May 2010 election.there are other ways.
> The other way is testing the system by outcome, e.g., I put in 100 ballots,
> I get 100 ballot count; I put in 100 valid ballots, I get 100 valid counts, 
> etc.
>
> That's what I mean by crucial agument.
>
>> The SC ruling against the Roque case is another matter altogether.  I was at 
>> the pleading, because Atty Vicky Avena of UP Law brought me along and gave 
>> me a free ride.  I did not even know (then) that my name will be mentioned 
>> four times by Harry Roque and the Justices. Our score, after hearing the 
>> presentations of all lawyers and after hearing the questions of the Justices 
>> was 6-6, and so was a tie.  Six for Roque, and six against.  But the Supreme 
>> Court works in mysterious ways, and in the end, the Justices scored it 
>> 11-2-1.  Eleven against, two for, and one abstention.  The most obvious 
>> mind-changer was CJ Puno himself, who was a big disappointment for me. I 
>> even declared him MY HERO, immediately after the pleadings, because he was 
>> obviously pro-Roque.  But justice is done, and all we can do is accept the 
>> verdict.
>>
>> In the CenPEG vs COMELEC case, I am also willing to accept any verdict that 
>> the SC may hand down, because, after all, they are the last refuge in this 
>> very unjust system.
>>
>> ~Pablo Manalastas~
>>
>>
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