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philip morales <[email protected]> wrote:

> thanks mate. Ive done automated installation across the fleet before but it
>went a lot of technical and process approvals before transition. This
>migration could encounter the same thing. It seems there is really no other
>way but do automated restart.
>Im not sure about running 3 old and 3 new ntp servers in parallel cause I
>may need to modify clients ntp.conf to add new ntp servers?
>
>
>On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:19 PM, andrelst <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Greek,
>> I think you are referring to TZ or zoneinfo on Solaris and Linux. And yes,
>> Solaris needs a reboot since TZ information is stored in memory and Linux,
>> specifically RHEL, you just run redhat-config-date... no restart needed.
>>
>> Philip,
>> Last time i look at the NTP code, it does a simple call to get the FQDN
>> first ip address (if there are multiple IP to 1 FQDN) and does not even
>> bother checking or obey DNS TTL which is I think you are hoping to achieve.
>> these means no choice but to restart the NTP daemon, which is not a big
>> deal.
>>
>> As you mention 2000 servers,  would be very conservative in changing the
>> aliases on the fly, as variations on each servers for /etc/hosts,
>> resolv.conf and nsswitch.conf can pretty much guarantee outages. And because
>> of the variations, it's not certified that new ip address of the aliases
>> will be picked up.  Example, ntp1 has a specific ip address on /etc/hosts.
>>
>> Personally, would add server ntp1..6. where you have 3 old NTP and 3 new
>> NTP running in parallel and do a restart on the NTP daemon. These guarantee
>> 100% no outage, as  you just fix the issues in your leisure time even in
>> PROD.
>>
>> regards,
>> Andre | http://www.varon.ca
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:16 AM, Greek Ordono <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>     For Solaris 8/9/10 requires restart and Redhat/Linux reload/SIGHUP
>> works:P
>>
>>     --
>>     Greek Ordono
>>     vmlinuz|genunix|vmkernel admin
>>     myppa: launchpad.net/~grexk/+archive/ppa
>>     From: philip morales <[email protected]>
>>     To: [email protected]
>>     Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 4:22:42 PM
>>     Subject: [plug] NTP alias migration
>>     im into migrating very old ntp servers by migrating their aliases into
>> the new ntp servers. ntp.conf of the clients just points to aliases
>>     let say
>>     server ntp1
>>     server ntp2
>>     server ntp3
>>     Im simulating how long will it take for the clients to pickup the new
>> ntp servers hostname but my tests using solaris 10 an rhel 5.6. show clients
>> are still pointing to old ntp servers even if I have migrated aliases but
>> nslookup is ok on all clients.
>>
>>     But when I restarted ntpd on the client of course they immediately
>> showed the correct new ntp servers.
>>
>>     But its not a good idea to restart ntpd on clients across the fleet. Is
>> there a way to make clients discover new ntp servers without restarting
>> their deamon?
>>
>>     Thanks!
>>
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