> Thanks. Chalk it up to SUE (Stupid User Error). I was hitting the TLS button > instead of SSL.
and for those not knowing the difference between those acronyms: SSL - secure sockets layer this is a mechanism where the end systems negotiate an encrypted connection automatically before any user data is transmitted. if you telnet to an ssl port, you won't see any data because the far end is expecting the beginning of an encryption handshake to exchange keys and other magic. TLS - transport layer security this is almost the same as ssl, but it has an extra dimension for mail (and probably other) clients. tls does the same kind of encryption handshake with slightly different (better, stronger, probably not faster) magic. but it also implies that tls can be invoked after a regular non-encrypted session has been started. so you can connect to the non-encrypted port (smtp, imap, pop3) and then after you get the appropriate banner, but before you send any sensitive info, you can send a command that will start a tls session. for smtp/imap it is starttls, for pop3 is it stls. and just to confuse things, if you use the ssl setting, it will almost certainly really be a tls encryption that you get. all that happens is that there is an implied start tls command prior to any data transfer. so, you have to use the correct setting based on which port you're connecting to. tls expects clear text and will send that start command, ssl expects an immediate tls/ssl handshake. smtp 25, smtps 265 pop3 110, pop3s 995 imap 143, imaps 993 _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug