On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 12:21:14AM -0800, Russell Senior wrote: > >>>>> "John" == John Jason Jordan <joh...@comcast.net> writes: > > John> Google's goals are find for now. How much will the fiber be > John> worth when everyone needs a yottabyte/sec? > > John> Suppose I spend $5,000 to get fiber installed to my house, > John> either through taxes or a utility charge. But the fiber must be > John> replaced by some new technology that we haven't thought of yet > John> in 20 years. That means the installation cost me $250 a year. > > A) it doesn't cost $5k to install. B) you are paying $1k a year to > Comcast as it is and will until you die. Consider the net present > value of that stream! and C) fiber doesn't really go obsolete.
B) While it is someone silly to assume that Comcast won't raise their rates considering their history the NPV for 20 years of 1K/yr payments assuming 5% (historical avg) rate is $12,462. Assuming that Comcast raises rates at 3% average / year the NPV is $15,965. Adjust years, inflation and rate as needed. C) Russell's point is worth paying attention to. Fiber media has remained much more stable than even copper wire. > can replace the equipment at the ends pretty easily and *bang* it > suddenly goes faster. NTT in Japan has pushed 14 Terabits per second > over 160 kilometers of fiber. Bell labs apparently has the record of > 155 channels of 100Gbps (15.5 terabits) over a single strand 7000 km > fiber. > > John> I love Google, but they ain't no such a thing as a free lunch. > > But there is such a thing as egregious waste and gouging, and that's > what you are getting today with Comcast and the other incumbents. You > can argue that they are the best *current* option, and you might be > right (if you leave aside "freedom"). > > Google is trying to bust up a logjam of inaction. They aren't > planning to do this everywhere. They want to demonstrate what is > actually known, that this is entirely do-able, to show what asshats > the incumbents are for dragging their feet so badly. The natural > hunger and envy of broadband users will (I think and, apparently, they > think) bust through the logjam and actually get this deployed in > the US instead of just overseas where Americans can't see it or even > conceive that it exists. > > > -- > Russell Senior, President > russ...@personaltelco.net > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > -- Michael Rasmussen, Portland Oregon Trading kilograms for kilometers since 2003 Be appropriate && Follow your curiosity http://www.jamhome.us/ The Fortune Cookie Fortune today is: Knucklehead: "Knock, knock" Pee Wee: "Who's there?" Knucklehead: "Little ol' lady." Pee Wee: "Liddle ol' lady who?" Knucklehead: "I didn't know you could yodel" _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list PLUG@lists.pdxlinux.org http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
