On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote:
>
> Normal versions of Debian and Ubuntu fail both ways.
> Comments?

I don't know which normal versions you are talking about, but I always
install Debian using netinst.
http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

At some point during the installation it asks you which type of system
you are installing and you just uncheck everything.
What you get is a very small installation that will boot to a console.
>From there you can install things as you need them.

Bill
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