On Mon, 01 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Jan 2001 at 20:43, Ian C. Sison wrote:
> >Installing reiser in place will give you a lot of headaches (if it is
> >even possible).
>
> While moving an existing system from ext2 to ReiserFS is not entirely
> "plug-and-play", it is possible (I've done it on two RedHat boxes, one
> RedHat 6.2 and one semi-upgraded RedHat 6.0). I've found that the tricky
> part is migrating the root partition. Everything else is just a matter of
> backup-mkreiserfs-restore. For the root partition, because I did not have
> a second hard drive, I had to use the partition for /home as a temporary
> root partition, boot, shift things around, et al. Pretty fun. :-)
The 'fun' can pretty much be a 'hassle' for users that simple want the
bottomline installed, which is have a file system that survives power outages.
Sometimes in my sorties to clients, it makes perfect sense in suggesting a
solution that will maintain itself as much as possible and without the need for
operator intervention. The less intervention that is necessary, the better for
all, including the consultant who will be called in if things just don't work
like they should.
I get your point about doing it for the sheer fun of it, heck i've done that
before and am still doing that now. But in the light of providing systems that
work and are online 99+% i'd rather give in to technology (or a good
combination of which) that has been proven in the field. And that definitely
does not mean 'rolling my own' but rather using an established solution, one
that has been tested on multiple environments for multiple uses.
>
> >I suggest getting another hard disk, install mandrake, and migrate over
> >your configs from the old redhat box into the mandrake box.
>
> Ahh, all this talk converting people from one distribution to another. I
> think this divides the Linux community instead of doing it good. It's like
> telling someone to "go Windows, everything else is just a waste of time".
> No offense meant. It's just that I've found it beneficial to allow a
> person his/her preference in distribution. ReiserFS is NOT
> distribution-specific. It patches the Linux kernel which is universal as
> far as the "Linux universe" is concerned. :-)
ReiserFS is NOT distro specific, yes yes yes, but for it to be in fact useful,
you've got to pick a distro which supports it best - in more ways than one -
installation, configuration, support and maintenance scripts. Don't tell me if
you want to install 50 servers with Reiser, you will install a RH distro, and
hand-convert each and every partition one by one?
So really, i'm just going for the best tool for the right job. Not
trying to knock of one's choice for a distro. Currently i know only SuSE and
MDK support Reiser (this list may increase, though), and to me that's what
you should use if one requires a journalling file system like reiser.
Again, it's not a issue of personal choice. In reality its only a choice
between two distros, and Redhat is most certainly not one of them!
>
> >Don't install in place, if you custom build your kernel, you be at a
> >loss when redhat releases a kernel update and you can't use it because
> >of course the reiser module isn't shipped along with redhat kernels.
>
> I've never really liked RedHat's (or anybody else's) bloated kernel.
> They've got too many things I don't use, and lack some things I do. I've
> configured and built my own customized kernels since I learned where to
> get them. How to was easy. "make (x)(menu)config; make dep; make bzImage;
> make modules_install;". Reading the config documents that come with the
> kernel source was fun, too. :)
Sticking to the stock kernel does leave you out a lot on the goodies inserted
by the distro's packagers - before 2.2.18 there was the USB backport,
Reiserfs, the IDE UDMA66 patches by Andre Hedrick, LVS, lm_sensors,
supermount, to mention just few. I used to stick to just the stock kernel,
and still do for some deployments, but clearly, there's a whole lot of
functionality you'll be missing out if you skip the distro-based kernels.
>
> --> Jijo
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