--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Win GO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>      how long do you think is "sufficient" time for a "decent" programmer to learn 
>zope/python 
>      and produce "acceptable" results.
> 
>     sorry for the quotes, but they really are subjective. aren't they? =)
> 

If you're serious about Zope development, you should learn Python(although a product
allowing you to use Perl inside Zope is forthcoming). 

Python, IMHO, is easier to learn than perl or java. You can learn python syntax 
(especially if you already know C, C++ or Java) in a day. You can become productive 
with python in a week (or even less). 

With Zope, depending on what you want to do, you can start using it in a day (Of 
course, 
the downside to zope is that it can do so much that you could spend months and still 
not 
know everything). There are also a few concepts central to Zope  which some people 
have 
a hard time with -- zopatistas talk about the 'Zen' of Zope that you get when you 
finally
'get' it.

Just to give you an idea... my personal experience ... I learned about python, bought 
a 
book in Oct. 1998 and studied on my own during as a hobby. A few months later
(around December 1998) I learned about Zope and started playing around with it. Around
April-May 1999 I started coding Squishdot. Around June 1999 I released the earliest
version of Squishdot. Considering that I was doing this just as a hobby and not part of
my job should give you an idea of how fast you can learn it if it is part of your job.
(that, plus the fact that I learned python because my mind could not absorb perl should
give you an idea that I'm not as smart as most of the people on this list :^))

Regards,

Butch

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