--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 21, 2001 at 06:17:50AM -0700, Butch Landingin wrote:
> > I'd suggest using the 2.1 version because the 2.2 is
> > still beta (and there are some syntax changes in 2.2 
> > which might cause differences in behavior in some of
> > the programs, i.e. nested scopes is no longer optional)... 
> > and I believe diveintopython assumes you are using 2.1...
> > 
> > Its available at
> > 
> > http://www.python.org/2.1/rpms.html
> 
> I checked my RPM dependencies and it seems that GNOME depends on python
> heavily.  I am worried that I might break my GNOME by upgrading.  Anyone
> with experience here?
> 

I believe you can have Python 1.5.2, 2.1 and 2.2 versions exist simultaneously.
Some Python code rely on C/Python interface libraries that are compiled for a 
specific version. So I believe what the authors did was to make it possible 
for these libraries/versions to coexist with each other.

> If it breaks... well switch to KDE? :)
>

Hehe. KDE also uses Python so if the upgrade breaks GNOME, it will also probably 
break KDE (I think YAST is written in Python). But I have good reasons to believe it 
won't.
 
> > Just make sure the Zope version is at 2.4.1 or higher (it uses Python 2.1 BTW)
> > The latest RPMS ar available here: 
> > 
> > http://www.taupro.com/Downloads/Zope/Zope241
> 
> I got 2.2.5 from Powertools, and it runs out of the box.  (Just got confused
> because the default of using port 8080 conflicted with Tomcat, which I 
> installed but never got around to working with).  It does looks like a major
> commitment for the web developer to use Zope, and since my employer is not
> a web dev shop I'm not sure as to how much we should go into supporting it.
> 

2.2.5 is fine for internal experimentation, its just that there are 
some security hotfixes that you need to apply if you ever want to use
it on the Internet. Generally, its much better to use the latest
version (2.4.2) but for learning purposes, 2.2.5 is fine.

You can also use their Linux tgz distribution directly from the Zope site 
(its only about 5.5 MB in size) You can always change the default port its 
running on.

For Zope website hosting, in general, its just like supporting Apache, PHP 
and MySQL -- there are administration issues involved (e.g. installing
new products, upgrading, security, interfacing with Apache, etc.) but the
good thing about Zope is that you don't have to give your clients shell
accounts/ssh access/ftp access for them to manage their website. So no, you 
don't have to be a web development shop to manage it... 

Of course, supporting and training clients to use Zope is another matter 
-- you can  either outsource it <hint> ;^) or build an internal 
support/training group.

Cheers,

Butch Landingin


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