Wow JM that was a mouthful but definitely a good preview of the
upcoming Hoary release. You noticed my laptop last saturday had Hoary
running - it was just a dist-upgrade from Warty after changing the
sources so I really have no idea how the installation of Hoary went,
but it is very similar to Warty. After all, why fix it if its not
broken.

> The first thing that impressed me was the boot help screens
> (accessible from pressing F1 through F10). Each screen had really
> useful information. For instance, there were two screens listing
> commonly known problematic hardware and the linux kernel options you
> had to pass to get them to work or be detected. There was a screen
> listing information about Ubuntu, as well as the four possible setups
> you could run (desktop or server installation, both either at the
> 'default' or 'expert' level). There was also a screen of minimum
> hardware requirements needed for Ubuntu.

Very similar to the Ubuntu LiveCD options at start up.

> One thing that should surprise a lot of people: on Ubuntu, you are not
> asked to provide a root password. In fact, the root account doesn't
> have a password (/etc/shadow has '*' in there) and can't be used to
> login directly. However, the first account that the installer prompted
> and created for you is added to the 'adm' group (among other groups),
> and /etc/sudoers allows 'adm' to run sudo as root for all commands.
> Which means you can simply 'sudo su -' to get a root shell. (I believe
> most of the GUI tools that need root are configured to launch gksudo
> instead of gksu). If you really want a root password, you can always
> 'sudo passwd' and type in a new password.

This sudo thing is actually explained a bit further here:

http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo

In a work place setting, the root account is probably the least taken
care of with regards to password maintenance. In an audit trail, root
usage is very vague; sudo can be easily traced

> A note on the Ubuntu package repositories: Ubuntu apparently has two
> repositories in general: the supported packages repository and the
> 'universe' repository. Unlike Debian, there isn't a 'main' or
> 'contrib' per se; 'main' roughly maps to the supported packages, and
> 'contrib' roughly maps to the 'universe' packages. AFAICT, there
> aren't any nonfree packages.

nonfree packages are up to the user to add (Marillat, etc.) since
Ubuntu only aims to have free packages in it.

> Anyway, I got ratpoison set up properly, and am now running a similar
> desktop configuration as with my Slackware installation.

ratpoison intrigues me..i will probably try this today and see if I
can tolerate such an environment. I wouldn't say "harsh" probably
"challenging" would be a good term.

> I did give the GNOME desktop a more-than-cursory glance though. Hoary
> has GNOME 2.10, IIRC, and the chrome is purty. I'll probably try it
> out one of these days, just for comparison's sake-- my Slackware
> installation only has GNOME 2.4, and a semi-ept install at that.

GNOME 2.10 is quite fast with X.org in my experience. I guess you
haven't tried installing OOo2 (milestone release). It's also included
in the repositories.
 
> The choice of Debian as a base, I think, is a big win for Ubuntu. The
> package management is great -- the configuration and setup was
> painless, mostly due to the package management.

If you noticed, under the Systems Menu, there is an entry called
Ubuntu Update Manager. This is just a frontend of a frontend
(Synaptic), but Update Manager gives you a nice overview of what
software gets to be upgraded/installed/removed after an update of the
repositories.
 
> Although the Ubuntu package repositories aren't as extensive as
> Debian's (and that's quite an understatement), the packages are pretty
> much what most users will be downloading.

Some people actually use Debian repositories to get other stuff. Like
codecs, libdvdcss2, etc.

> I heartily suggest you give it a try. Now if only the CDs would arrive
> soon... so I can critique the packaging. ;)

So you sigining up for the LoCo Team? *wink*

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