On 11/15/2018 09:10 AM, Johnathan Mantey wrote:
Richard,

I viewed one of the links I provided in the "old devices" thread, related
to this one.  It seems based on what I just read that the *Noodle Pi* may
be very close to your list of requirements.

Mea Culpa.
I investigated Raspberry Pi about a year ago. If I had wanted to do an engineering prototype it was computationally suitable. But too much assembly was required and a useful case required access to a 3-D printer.

I thought the Noodle Pi was one of those projects "available real soon" having the problems listed above. Your post prompted a search yielding [https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hash42/noodle-pi-the-complete-raspberry-pi-pocket-compute]. *NICE*!!! He may be prophet &/or mind-reader ;} The designer obviously has more real world real world experience than demonstrated by most of the crowd funded projects I looked at.

I haven't followed enough links to find if the assembled version has off the shelf retail availability. If not, it is likely worth waiting for.

Thank you for persistence.

I also sent another link, which I have not viewed, comparing 5 different
handheld devices (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXNllO79_68)

I have a low data cap so I routinely don't follow youtube links.

You hadn't commented on the info provided, so I wanted to add it to this
thread.

On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 6:32 AM Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> wrote:

On 11/13/2018 07:46 PM, Russell Senior wrote:
On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 1:26 PM Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net>
wrote:

I know I have *WEIRD* preferences.

How should I pose questions in a manner that they would be taken
    _ *EXTREMELY LITERALLY* _?

You should pose it knowing that you may get answers that don't fit
perfectly. You are responsible for wading through the responses and
extracting the value you can. They may be the best answers available
from the people you are asking. Learn to live with that.


ROFL? Don't know if I should laugh, cry, groan, or inspire a SNL skit ;}
Been "living with 'it' " for ~half a century :}
Who? Me? Strange world view? <snicker>

More seriously, compared to other fora this one has a better track
record of answering the questions actually asked rather than the
question that some wished I had asked.

You have to see the humor of this thread.

1. I state I'm interested in current production.
     It is suggested I buy decade old units on ebay.
     Some came closer by mentioning things that barely made it out of
     a crowd funding phase before ceasing production.

2. I specify *"physical form factor similar to a Palm Pilot"* and
     having USB connectivity.
     I can't have that as USB did not exist in Palm Pilot era.

3. I specify a "Linux device" and " *NOT* be shipped with Android OS".
     I'm told that is unreasonable as ~"everybody uses Android".
     [One person did point to a device shipped with Linux dual booted. It
      meets my underlying requirement on not having to deal with Android.
      It is unclear if it has yet entered production &/or ships with my
      preferred mix of options. I'm tracking it.]

I've had requests for justification of some of my specifications.

My physical environment strongly influences my choices:
    1. due to >70 years of wear-n-tear my doctor would like data.
    2. pen and paper is non-viable.
    3. I'm on an exercise program which would benefit from records.
    4. walking with a pair of forearm crutches which introduces
       portability issues.

I specify Linux for choice of installing only relevant software
and is easily customized - in my case by Tcl/Tk scripts.

Android is not acceptable due to personal experience. A few years ago
Lenovo had a cell phone available in three configurations:
    1. with sim card and a cell phone carrier.
    2. with no sim card installed making cell connectivity optional.
    3. *without* possibility of installing a sim card.
I bought one of the later discovering:
    1. primary source of _free software_ was Google who required an
       unacceptable amount of personal info for "free" software.
    2. it placed unreasonable barriers to installing a preferred OS.

I referenced Palm Pilot due to it's form factor and capabilities:
    1. nominal size 6" x 4" x 1" would be good - thinner better.
    2. as an example of minimal capabilities.

Cell connectivity serves no useful purpose and gives manufacturers
unreasonable justifications for restrictions on user modifications
to their personal property. Current discussion of E911 connectivity
requirements without a sim card points out possible undesirable
unintended side effects of unintentional 911 calls.
unreasonable range.

Specifying availability from U.S. retail vendor handles some personal
preferences.

A long winded post. But ... ;/

Owl ducks fer cover.



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