On Fri, Apr 23, 2021, 5:40 AM Russell Senior <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject > > > line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for > > > me to conclude the IRB made a mistake in deciding there were no human > > > subjects to consider, even if there is some narrow rule that allowed > > > them to exempt the project. I don't know any of the mechanics of why > > > that mistake was made. > > > > > > > That is exactly why I called this out as Cancel Culture. > > > > Its not about being right or wrong, its about Due Process and the way in > > which we learn from our mistakes. > > > > You are moving from accusation to execution without considering any > motive > > or the real cause of the problem. Whether or not you are correct is > > irrelevant. > > I understand you are bored and want to argue, but this is wrong. I do > know a little about IRB's and what their job is. I have no role in > executing anyone. The primary reason I posted this was that it was a > pretty important news item that I thought the PLUG community would > want to hear about (not least because the malicious patches involved > might be in a kernel we are running). The subject line was an > editorial comment on my part about how egregious a mistake I thought > it was, regardless of the specific mechanics or motives. You are free > to agree or disagree, with approximately equal impact as me > (unmeasurably small) on whether the IRB is fired or changes their > processes or continues without change. > You started the argument here, not me. You have no excuse for trying to gaslight me like this. I was in no way trying to argue or accuse you of anything. Going back to the original statement I made, I was simply pointing out that your choice of words for the subject line bore resemblance to cancel culture tactics. That is public record. Why you decided to take that as an argument against your opinions and experience is mystery to me. Anyone with a semblance of knowledge of english can see that I was simply pointing out a small part of the overall conversation. YOU blew it up into an attack on me. Put those reading glasses back on and try again. -Ben _______________________________________________ PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
