On 3/3/23 00:07, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> ...
>> https://www.videolan.org/developers/x265.html
>> can be linked to vlc and ffmpeg, and anything linked to them.
> Ffmpeg binaries are a patent violation and distributing them is a violation.  
> It is small enough that MPAA-LA is not going after them.  But it makes it 
> impossible to use ffmpeg with libxh265 in anything corporate.  MPAA-LA does 
> not care about you viewing your security cam in your house, LOL.
Did U say anything about "corporate'? No.  ffmpeg binaries are not a
violation for home use.  This was settled back when the lame mp3 source
(before mp3 patents expired).

> ...
>
> The reason that cams like the Reolink cams use H.265 to encode
Not all. Reolink E1 Pro uses H.264.
>
>> https://www.libde265.org/blog/2014/02/22/gstreamer-4k-h265-hevc-plugin/
>> Anything that uses gstreamer can play h.265 with this gst plugin and
>> libde265 library..
> None of this hodgepodge of programs is going to be able to keep up with 
> encoding a video stream using
> A low power CPU like the ARM A9 in a camera.  That's why they use hardware 
> encoders.
>
>> Whether a plugin/extension/HTML5/js/nodejs can be massaged so as to display 
>> in a web browser is another exercise.
> Once more it's pointless since Chrome supports the hardware decoders in Kaby 
> Lake and later CPUs that have them.
>
>> H.265 is a topic on the Zoneminder forums, so they are aware:
>> https://forums.zoneminder.com/viewtopic.php?t=31787
> Actually, everything on that above link is wrong.  The first post says:
>
> "the issue is, once enabled, zoneminder no longer allows you to watch saved 
> events or scrub multiple events."
>
> Which is completely wrong since I'm staring at a Zoneminder saved event that 
> is saved in H.265 right this second with no problems!
>
> There's also a post in that thread about decoding H.265 in Javascript which 
> is nuts because because Chrome/Edge on modern hardware can already display 
> native H.265.  The whole javascript idea would only benefit Firefox, and 
> Chrome running on older hardware.  It would be a lot less work to just write 
> a patch for Firefox to use the hardware decoder.  Mozilla did this for the 
> hardware AV1 decoders already, they can do it for the hardware H.265 decoders 
> easily.
>
> I think the posters in that thread really were unclear on the issue.  Of 
> course, that thread is older than the fix that Google made to Chrome to 
> support hardware decoders.
>
>> https://forums.zoneminder.com/viewtopic.php?p=129677&hilit=H.265#p129677
> This link is accurate.  ZM transcodes incoming H.265 or any other video codec 
> a camera might use into H.264 for the live view.  The initial poster of that 
> thread very likely had some other issue in his configuration.
>
>> Unfortunately, I missed your Zoneminder talk. I have it running here with 2 
>> cellphones [1] and just added a Reolink E1 >Pro [2]. Once I figured out that 
>> I needed their windows app (WINE FTW!) to activate rtsp and ONVIF I was able 
>> to find >the h264 streams.  why were these disabled by default and no web 
>> console!
> You don't need their windows app to activate rtsp in most Reolink cams.  You 
> can access the camera admin interface with a web browser and go to network 
> settings and there's a tickbox that is buried there that turns on the 
> protocol.
>
> It is interesting to find out you enabled rtsp on an E1.  According to the 
> following from Reolink the E1 does not support rtsp:
>
> https://support.reolink.com/hc/en-us/articles/900000617826-Which-Reolink-Products-Support-CGI-RTSP-ONVIF
>
I have a Reolink E1 *PRO*.  There is *NO* web interface.  A weird
non-standard server runs on port 9000 (for reolink apps) and RTSP and
ONVIF were disabled.
> But personally I'm not much interested in wifi security cameras like the E1.  
> In Oregon the law says it's illegal to record someone where there is a 
> reasonable expectation of privacy, and most indoor homes have that 
> expectation implied so as a rule I refuse to assist or install video cameras 
> inside of a home.  If someone wants to record their cat while they are away, 
> that's fine, but a DIY set-and forget wifi cam like the E1 is what they use, 
> and they won't be calling me to help them.
Irrelevant, off topic.  I do not live in OR nor have asked you to
install anything for me.  I also do not think you fully understand
"reasonable expectation of privacy" when it concerns private property.
> Retail businesses are public places so I do those, and wifi cams are just not 
> reliable enough plus most businesses doing indoor cams have drop ceilings so 
> it's easy to run ethernet cables to cams.
Irrelevant commentary
>> https://www.linuxgalaxy.org/kingbeowulf/repurpose-cellphones-as-home-security-cameras/
> Yeah that one has banging around for a while.  Most people in homes want to 
> use security cams outside and weatherproofing a cell phone is not easy.  It 
> might be fun for making cat videos of your cats when you aren't home, though. 
>  But the big issue is you still have to run a charging cable to the phone.  
> So if you are going to run a cable to it then dispense with it and just run 
> an ethernet cable to a real cam.
>
> The idea of using an indoor wifi cam or phone for security is ridiculous, if 
> they can get inside of your house to be able to be seen by the indoor camera 
> you have already lost.
Agreed that weatherproofing is a challenge. The rest of your comment is
nonsense. Recycling a cellphone to keep it out of a landfill is NOT
ridiculous. Mine are mounted on windows looking out and running a USB
cable was trivial.  The E1 Pro is mounted for a view of front living
room, front windows and door. Somebody "outside" is not as much a
concern (nothing to steal) than someone actually breaking in (an actual
crime).  Works perfectly well for my needs. The server is locked and why
would a burglar/invader take time to look for it? Not everyone can or
should spend $$ for professional hardware and installation. That is just
nuts.

>
>> If you happen to know how to get the Zoneminder camera motion control 
>> working on E1 pro, ping me offlist!
> Call Reolink support!  Seriously - makers like Reolink depend on tech support 
> to know what additions they need to make to their products.
>
They won't help, out of scope.  The motion control is already active, I
just need to learn how to create the configuration file in ZoneMinder so
that ZoneMinder can send the correct commands via rtsp/ONVIF.

-Ed


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