I thought this killed it:

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/appcenter/announcing-apache-cordova-retirement/

When the owner of github turns it's back on a tech it's probably a good idea to 
ask why

You may only be interested in developing iphone apps but Google has Android 13 
deploying now (I just bought a new
Pixel 6a 3 days ago and rooted it, and it's updated to Android 13) and Google 
also recently released a statement that once a year they are going to be 
deprecating apps from the PlayStore that don't meet current API level.  And 
they change API levels at least once a year it seems.  Cordova is not at that 
API level yet.

I think most mobile app developers who need cross-platform who are 
windows-centric devs are using Xamarin and Linux devs are using Flutter but 
that's just my impression.  Personally when I built my last mobile apps I 
eschewed iphone support and built Android apps using Android Studio and the 
tutorials on Google's website to do it.   While iphones are hugely popular in 
the United States they are a minority phone in the rest of the world (yeah I 
know I'm going to get a bunch of people screaming at me for that)  Plus, in my 
humble opinion, the most interesting apps (to me) are lower level networking 
apps and you cannot build a packet-flooder that will run on an iphone (well, at 
least not on one that's not jailbroken) while you can for Android (provided 
it's rooted).  I don't think a lot of people realize but once you root an 
Android phone you can compile C apps directly on Linux into binaries that will 
run on the phone, I've done it.

I just have a "thing" about being able to turn off all the crapware that Apple 
and Google like to load on phones.  It's MY phone, dammit, not their device 
they can use to track me.  Apple acts completely insane about jailbroken phones 
and goes on a rampage anytime someone figures out how to do it and has been 
known to push OTA updates that brick jailbroken phone, while Android ecosystem 
is pretty supportive of rooted phones, as long as you are willing to buy them 
not get some carrier to give you a "free phone"   So I don't have much use for 
the iphone and little interest in making one of my Android apps run on one.

Ted

-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jake Bottero
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2023 12:41 AM
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Subject: [PLUG] Apache Cordova

Anyone use Apache Cordova to build phone apps? Opinions?

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