That's minor stuff. Thunderbird versions greater than 91.13.1 are completely broken with self-signed certificates. While yes there's always Lets Encrypt, why go through the extreme bullcrap of setting up LetsEncrypt on a mailserver that is buried behind firewalls and does not have port 80 forwarded to it when you can sign your own certificates?
There's a way to turn off auto-updates on thunderbird. Ted -----Original Message----- From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Dick Steffens Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 2:11 PM To: PLUG List <[email protected]> Subject: [PLUG] Thunderbird Changes <Rant mode on> When did the developers decide against DFWAB? (Don't Fix What Ain't Broke) <Rant mode off> First annoyance: The latest version of Thunderbird (115.3.1) comes with some annoying changes. Several buttons that used to be in a toolbar disappeared. Somehow I tripped over a way to add a button that is for starting a new message on my main machine but have not been able to find it on my laptop. The old button said "Write" and the new button says "New Message". T-Bird on both machines is 115.3.1. The main machine is Xubuntu 22.04, and the laptop is Xubuntu 20.04. I've tried Edit > Settings, and View > Toolbars > Customize..., but have not found what I'm looking for. In the Customize the toolbars page that is a collection of things to add, but nothing related to New Message. Just to see what would happen, I "added" one of the buttons, but it never showed up. And yes, I did click <Save>. Any idea where I should be looking? Second annoyance: When I reply to a message, I usually delete a bunch of stuff by holding the shift key down and clicking where I want the beginning of the deletion to occur, and then hit <Enter>. That used to leave the cursor showing. Now it doesn't. If I start typing, the first character I type does not appear, and all the blank lines above my signature block are deleted. Hitting <Enter> three times cleans that up, and the cursor is showing after one blank line below the text to which I'm replying. That works, but why is it needed? Anyway, back to my opening rant, what is the point of all these changes? Do they fix something? For me they break things. Grouse, grouse. -- Regards, Dick Steffens
