On 6/19/06, Stuart Jansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
JSP: Designed by Java programmers. In other words, tries to solve every
problem that man has, is or may ever face. It does so at the cost of
complexity. Of course it does complex session tracking automatically.

I think this view is common, but untrue.  JSP isn't complicated.
There are a lot of frameworks and code in Java that are complicated --
thus the reputation.  But there isn't anything inherent in Java or JSP
that makes this so.

You can develop php-like, model-1, web apps with ease in JSP.  It's no
harder than PHP.  Just straight forward embedding of code in between
<% %> tags in your otherwise HTML page.

The underlying session tracking features of JSP I mentioned before are
free.  No unholy mountains of configuration.  No endless layers of
complex code.  It really is easy.

There's a reason people are exploring the use of PHP as the view portion
of MVC Java Web apps.

Sure.  Why not.  After all the JVM runs more languages than any other
runtime (including .NET) -- php, python, ruby, groovy, beanshell,
javascript, cold fusion, scheme, and many others.  If the JVM can run
PHP, and there are many PHP (but non-java programmers), then why not
enable the use of it to render web pages.  Sounds like a win-win.
However, the dominate front-end technology for web pages in Java is
still JSP.

BTW - I'm not trying to sell JSP or PHP to the poster.  I'm sure he's
committed to PHP.

-Bryan

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