On Nov 2, 2006, at 2:40 PM, Grant Shipley wrote:

On 11/2/06, Jonathan Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
iPhoto is amazing. You can tag each picture and make albums on the fly and instant slideshows. I love it. I think you can even post to a photo blog with it, but I have not tried it yet. I am still using Gallery2 for
online photo sharing.

<sarcasm>
Is iPhoto open source now?  Can it run on linux?
</sarcasm>

Settle down, pal. The original poster never specified that it had to be open-source, nor that it had to run on Linux. One might assume that, based on the list being posted to, but it was never made clear. Ask a general question, get a general response. :)


Sorry for the flame bait but we have to stop thinking of Apple and
their closed source applications as a suitable alternative.

You must not be that sorry or you wouldn't have posted sent the email. Some people do not believe it, but I believe that there is definitely a place in this world for well-written, user-friendly closed source software. Would I like a free and/or open-source alternative to iPhoto? Sure, especially if it was cross-platform. But right now, iPhoto for me is definitely the best of the bunch.


Apple took open source software and made it great in a couple of
years.  Have they given it back?  Nope.  In my opinion, they are more
harmful to open source than microsoft.

Perhaps you have some concrete examples of what they have "taken" and not given back? Safari is based on WebKit (which is based on KHTML), and Apple has made their changes freely available. Perhaps you refer to the fact that a lot of Apple's utilities are from the *BSD's. The BSD license doesn't require anyone to give anything back, but Apple does anyway. Including writing a new "unified launch" program (launchd) that they have made available. Perhaps you should cut back on your daily intake of un-informed rhetoric. :)

That being said, Apple, Google, and Microsoft are all public companies and don't just answer to the ideals of open-source software, but they also answer to their shareholders. Where will any of those companies be if they start losing lots of money? Just ask Sun how long it takes to go from king of the hill to being an also- ran. In Silicon Valley, it can be clocked with an egg timer.


How about google?  Their business is built and runs on open source
software --- and yet they fail to see the need to open source their
GWT compiler(*1).  How about picassa(*2), is it open source? No of
course not.

Google is a company, and they have every right to not open-source pieces of software if that is their choice. Just like I have every right to open-source the software I write.

I have also heard a bunch of speculation that Google can't open- source the GWT compiler due to intellectual property issues. Nothing official, that is just what I have read/heard. So, that could be un- informed rhetoric. Maybe I should cut back as well.

/me wanders off muttering "Never believe anything you read on Slashdot."

Grant


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