>What do you mean by "SEE"? You can't get on the network? You 
>don't see it in Places-> Network? I'm going to assume the 
>former, because 1) I never use the latter, and 2) you don't 
>want to use "Windows networking" (aka Samba) anyway.

By 'see' I mean, even though each machine can access resources on the
'net, non can connect to and access LOCAL resources, despite all being
connected through the same router. On one machine I can see a window's
network icon, but I click on it and generate a permissions error, that I
don't have sufficient permissions to access those resources. 

In suggestion I avoid Samba, are you indicating that NFS would work much
better? Samba has always, until now, worked well for me, but I am
willing to give NFS a shot. I really don't care which I use, as long as
I can enable sharing among these machines and establish remote access
and control that works too. 

>This sounds like a networking problem. Does your DHCP server 
>have an entry for the spare machine? If not, I would use 
>ifconfig and route to manually set up the spare machine 
>(assuming this is a one-off job). First, on Ubuntu, take 
>NetworkManager out and shoot it.

On my router's web admin screen, it shows machines on my LAN, even
though those machines can't talk to each other. I have uninstalled
NetworkManager, even though it was working fine. 

>/etc/init.d/NetworkManager stop
>
>
>Then, adjusting to suit your network:
>
>IF=eth0
>ifconfig $IF 192.168.23.4
>
>route del default
>route add default gw 192.168.23.31
>route -n
>
>cat > /etc/resolv.conf <<EORES
>search localdomain
>nameserver 127.0.0.1
>nameserver 192.168.23.30
>nameserver 192.168.23.4
>EORES
>
>ifconfig $IF

Are these in a script, or just entered at the command prompt? I don't
mean to sound ignorant here, but I am not sure how to use these. 

>You should now be on the network. Ping a known good host by IP 
>address to verify networking, then by host name to verify name lookup.
>
>Then use rsync, as Nicholas suggested, and *NOT* samba.
>
>Personally, I'd use finnix for this. Much faster boot time, 
>and no NetworkManager to get in your way.

Is 'finnix' then a replacement for NetworkManager? 

Scott

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