Von Fugal wrote: > <quote name="Levi Pearson" date="Mon, 8 Nov 2010 at 10:59 -0700"> >> Ruby is sort of Perl-like in cleverness, but with object-orientedness >> baked into everything as with Python. It also borrows liberally from >> Scheme and Smalltalk, which are a couple of my favorite programming >> languages. Unfortunately, someone went and wrote Rails with it, and >> the community was apparently taken over by pretentious idiot Rails >> fanbois. I'd recommend staying away until you are sufficiently >> inoculated against that sort of idiocy, or at least have someone you >> trust to keep you grounded in reality. > > This is one big reason I love ruby. It borrows so much great stuff from > so many great places. Scheme, perl, smalltalk. My heart glows. It has > object-orientedness baked into _everything_, NOT as with python. Python > has plenty that is not objecty, and it bums me out.
At that, at least Python is objecty enough to avoid the pitfalls of Java. There's a trade-off of safety and power; I happen to feel comfortable with Python's placement on the spectrum. Granted, it hasn't always been as objectified as it now is; I for one am glad to be able to subclass int and dict. > As for the rails dilemma, I fully agree. Rails is awesome, don't get me > wrong, but the fanboi hordes that have loitered the community are > much like those pertaining to the Tea Party. Both are extremely > unfortunate and are to be avoided. Interesting. You imply that there is a fundamentally good idea hidden somewhere deep inside the Tea Party that could be usefully ported to a more productive platform. I would love to know what it is; my fanboi cousin has led me to believe the whole thing was full of lunatics. - Eric /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
