Oohhh, this is good. I don't have time to respond right now but I definitely will - possibly not until tomorrow, sadly.
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Matthew Frederico <mfreder...@gmail.com> wrote: > I don't want to sound like a terrorism expert, but I know a little about > terrorism first hand .. > > I spent some time in Ireland during some of the formative IRA years. I > feel I have a small understanding of what Terrorism is. Any lurkers who > spent time in South Africa, or even North Africa who may shed more > enlightenment on this subject please chime in. Drive by shootings, fire > bombings of churches, homes and cars occupied and unoccupied. I've walked > through streets filled with burnt down homes and angry mobs throwing > molotov cocktails at each other, with cars and gas tanker trucks on fire, > smoke so thick from burning homes that you can't see the sky .. > > From my experience - What I can tell you is that terrorism is a word used > by a force regime, media outlet, or governmental faction to create a > sympathetic ear towards a specific agenda by utilizing gratuitous violence > as a means to sway public opinion. This happens all throughout history > where "the means justify the ends" .. So what a few lives are lost to drive > home a point about liberty? - whether it be a faction believes we have too > much, or too little. > > It's quite depressing - hearing gunshots, women wailing over their children > being in the wrong place at the wrong time, pools of blood in city parks - > Masked gunmen killing people with AK-47's in a country where incidentally > guns are completely ILLEGAL .. > > Or perhaps terrorism is only terrorism if you look at it from one point of > view? Depending on how you "spin" it - The other side of terrorism is > "self defense and sovereignty." Just like the IRA were defending their > right and liberty to have the republic of Ireland as a sovereign nation to > secede from England .. sound familiar? > > War is just one big giant act of terrorism and all you honest veterans know > it. It's like brutalizing your neighbor in the middle of the night, then > turning around and selling them an alarm system, cameras and guns in the > name of safety. It's all racketeering .. > > At least the IRA had the decency to "call in" their bomb threats ... Often > the police and military did nothing and innocent lives were lost. Sound > familiar? > > > > On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Kyle Waters <u...@unum5.org> wrote: > >> On 06/25/2013 06:25 PM, Joshua Fenio wrote: >> >>> >>> You know, I can forgive you for being mind-numbingly dumb, but what I >>> can't >>> forgive is this: if you believe the government has been taken over by >>> secret Muslims and that America is murdering service members and >>> diplomats, >>> why aren't you attacking the Capitol right now? Why aren't you rebelling? >>> Where's your militia at? You're either dumb but have some subconscious >>> realization that you're wrong, or you're a coward. A big coward. >>> >>> >> >> I want to go the opposite direction with this. Keep praying. You >> arguments are identical to Timothy McVeigh's and Terry Nicohls. Keep in >> mind they are now in a federal penitentiary and will not be leaving. They >> too thought the government had been taken over by people bent on >> prosecuting Christians. They had plenty of evidence: Ruby Ridge, Waco. >> The federal government was launching assaults on "Christian" sects. The >> prophesies were being fulfilled. All of this had been explained to them >> by the gun merchants at the gun conventions that they assisted with(It's >> been explained to me by an other member of this list). So they decided >> they needed to act, to strike back at the federal government before it was >> too late. So they blew up a bunch of little children. Don't do that. >> Serious don't do that. Pray all you want, but don't blow up anyone >> especially little children(some of the people on this list have mocked me >> for thinking about those little children, but I continue to think about >> them frequently). >> >> In the end they learned that most Americans were O.K. with the federal >> government shooting and killing a child molester, and you'll find most of >> us our O.K. with people being told "jokes" about shooting people aren't >> funny, and that a few people being mistakenly arrested and then paid for it >> isn't going to bother most people either. You really should read other >> sources on that story about people being arrested for proselytizing there's >> much more to it(multiple groups some of who were acting illegally and the >> cops relying on witness testimony for who that included, the cops made a >> mistake but they didn't intentionally arrest people for proselytizing). So >> calm down take a deep breath. Keep praying and asking for guidance for >> your family, and above all don't kill anyone. >> >> Kyle >> >> >> /* >> PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net >> Unsubscribe: >> http://plug.org/mailman/**options/plug<http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug> >> Don't fear the penguin. >> */ >> > > > > -- > -- > -- Matthew Frederico > > /* > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > Don't fear the penguin. > */ /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
