To your point: I've been using PmWiki over 10 years and using it for many 
clients since I started my business...  I haven't had a request I couldn't 
handle in PmWiki.  Sometimes I had to write the plug-ins to do it, but PmWiki's 
strong point is a friendly development community, a single-point-of-contact for 
the main developer (used to be PM, now it's Petko) to ask the really hard 
questions, and its backward-compatibility.  With such a SMALL code-base, it's 
easier to look at the source code if you must, with things like SDVs it's easy 
to replace code and defaults instead of inserting your own custom code into the 
basic package.

I don't know the WordPress API, but if it's as bloated as the package is then 
it would be hard to use.  I don't think there's one person who wrote the 
majority of the code and understands it all.  My nightmare experience in 
customization was with OSCommerce and ZenCart: the plug-ins had you actually 
change the base package files you couldn't safely upgrade your software.  So I 
forgot to mention that a strength of PmWiki is upgradability.  Nearly 
everyone's recipe still works whether it was written 5 years ago or written 
last week.  That's a long time!  Right now, due to a change in PHP, we have the 
first time in a decade (I think) where we have to go through the entire recipe 
archive and identify recipes in need of updates.  That's a LOOOONG time.

It's nice to know that something you contribute will last.  And when you 
upgrade your wiki software, your recipes are quite likely going to "just 
continue working" without the need to change anything.

PmWiki is more a multitool than a hammer, and given the basic PmWiki 
philosophy, sometimes it's better to hack the multitool to take care of the job 
in question because the results are (for the software world!) nearly permanent. 
 Since "there is no spoon"* perhaps the spoon might be a nail after all...  Any 
website you want to create that can be done with WordPress can be done with 
PmWiki.  And technically, vice versa.  But which is the easier path?  I'd say, 
with no data to back it up because after my experiences with "themes" for 
WordPress I have no desire to attempt to look at the API/code base, the easier 
path is hacking PmWiki than WordPress.

Crisses

*Matrix or quantum physics reference -- who cares.

On Feb 4, 2014, at 11:56 PM, tamouse pontiki wrote:

> Gosh, I'd have a hard time of this. I dislike wordpress so much, and
> love pmwiki so much. I'm sure I'd give them the wrong answers. :)

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