-----
/ o o \
====OO=====OO===
http://pnews.org/
Progressive News & Views (since 1982)
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Again, satire is impossible on the web. However, let
me try it again.
We inhabit a culture of cruelty. We disguise this
culture as compassion. It is exactly this false
compassion that the satire aims to show. Swift
suggested fattening Irish babies for the tables of
English Lords. I, for my part, only say that Rhesus
monkey died for your sins.
Who could imagine putting say a prisoner from death
row in the lab at UC Davis and shooting them with a
high velocity rifle to see how well the wounding
occurs? Why friend, instead you substitute a
non-human primate and this is applauded not only as
science but as humane.
Bah, this is humbug. Better that we use the prisoner
and admit our barbarism than to call ourselves
civilized because we torture animals.
Of course, thanks to the recent changes in the law,
we might well be testing humans overseas like Rhesus
monkeys in the lab. Doubtlessly the cost benfit for
the science research works out better with jihadists.
Moreover, no worries about PETA.
--- Hank Roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -----
> / o o \
> ====OO=====OO===
> http://pnews.org/
> Progressive News & Views (since 1982)
> |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> From: Zachary Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5
>
>
> From Charles: "My point is that in a culture of
> cruelty animal testing
> is simply part of the superstructure of life in it's
> most mundane."
>
> I suppose you're right, but it also depends on how
> you've been
> conditioned (or choose) to live your life. I prefer
> to live mine
> compassionately. How will we ever end the culture
> of cruelty if we go
> on blindly accepting what we know is wrong?
>
> From SPEAK UK:
>
> "Unscientific - Unsafe
>
> One of the biggest preconceptions concerning animal
> research is that
> human illnesses can be studied in another species.
> In reality, diseases
> vary from species to species.
>
> Sometimes experimenters try to recreate some of the
> symptoms, and they
> may be able to get cases where it looks similar, but
> that's hardly
> science. Out of all illnesses known to humanity,
> less than 2% of them
> are ever seen in any non-human animal. It's a
> problem they still haven't
> overcome.
>
> The scientific director of Huntingdon Life Sciences
> <http://www.shac.net>, one of the biggest drug and
> product testing labs
> in the world has estimated that the accuracy of
> using animals to predict
> the human effect is "between 5%-25%".
>
> So to be generous to him, in three times out of four
> we get a false
> result which is then used to decide whether the
> product is used in humans.
>
> And the results of this reliance on vivisection?
>
> The human cost is massive.
>
> Birth defects: They occurred in about 3 in 100,000
> live births in the
> late 1940s, by the end of the century there were
> over 800 per 100,000.
> The most in-depth study to date, by German doctors
> concluded 61% of
> birth defects and 88% of stillbirths were
> definitely, directly caused by
> animal experiments. Animal testing is incapable of
> predicting this
> catastrophe.
>
> Deaths and serious injuries: In 1998 an American
> medical journal
> concluded that 106,000 deaths PER YEAR in the US
> alone were caused by
> medical drugs passed safe on animals. A UK medical
> journal estimated
> 70,000 people in England each year are killed or
> seriously disabled by
> medical drugs, yet all of these pass animal tests.
> The scale is
> undeniably massive.
>
> Vivisection continues for two main reasons.
>
> One is the drug industry. It allows drugs to be
> approved quickly, and
> because animals give a variety of results, it
> virtually guarantees entry
> onto the marked where it is earning money. It also
> provides an obstacle
> to legal action when drugs go wrong, because with
> animal tests
> performed, negligence becomes hard to prove.
>
> The other is that it's so easy to publish. "A rat is
> an animal which
> when injected produces a paper" as the saying goes,
> which means easy
> work in this 'publish or perish' scientific world.
> Clinical research is
> infinitely more valuable, but requires ingenuity,
> planning, people
> skills, and time. Anyone can do animal experiments -
> they may not give
> useful results but at least they're results.
>
> Opposition to vivisection on medical grounds is
> growing, and is in
> direct proportion to awareness of the facts. The
> more people know about
> vivisection, the less they like it. It's a massive
> subject, but you
> don't need to be a professor to understand it."
>
> > -----
> > / o o \
> > ====OO=====OO===
> > http://pnews.org/
> > Progressive News & Views (since 1982)
> > |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> > From: Charles Stegiel
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > Satire is lost on the internet. I might infer
> from
> > your post that due to animal tests being
> > unreliable-though I doubt the high velocity bullet
> > testsare unreliable-human subjects might take
> their
> > place. And I do not doubt that in Gitmo and Iraq
> and
> > elsewhere medical experiments funded by US labs,
> or
> > drug companies, or scietists on contracts with the
> > government, are occuring. My point is that in a
> > culture of cruelty animal testing is simply part
> of
> > the superstructure of life in it's most mundane.
> >>
> >
> >> From: Zachary Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>
> >> Necessary how? The physiology of humans and the
> animals that are tested
> >> on are different. How does that make for a
> reliable experiment. If we'd
> >> stop putting chemicals and toxins in the things
> we put in/on our bodies
> >> and on the Earth, we wouldn't need so much
> testing. Zachary Johnson
> >>
> >
>
>
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> M A I L I N G L I S T S
> (1) pnews-news - NEWS mailing list - (text only)
> Send "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" as subject
> ----> pnews-news-request(at)inyourface.info
>
=======================================================
> (2) pnews-views - VIEWS mailing list- (text only)
> OPEN discussion - "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" as
> subj
> Send to ------>
> pnews-views-request(at)inyourface.info
>
=======================================================
>
> (3) fightback - articles and pointers distribution
> list
> (html/text) - expert informed opin., credentialed
> authors
> ----> http://pnews.org/dada/
>
========================================================
> (4) ATTN: WEBMASTERS - Link Exchange/improve site
> rank
> ----> links_only-subscribe(at)googlegroups.com - or,
> go to:
> -----> http://groups.google.com/group/Links_Only
>
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>
>
Charles Stegiel
Commercial/Residential Financing
FCF: 680 8th Street #255
SF, CA. 94103
415-863-2200 Ext 23
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
http://mail.yahoo.com
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
M A I L I N G L I S T S
(1) pnews-news - NEWS mailing list - (text only)
Send "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" as subject
----> pnews-news-request(at)inyourface.info
=======================================================
(2) pnews-views - VIEWS mailing list- (text only)
OPEN discussion - "subscribe" or "unsubscribe" as subj
Send to ------> pnews-views-request(at)inyourface.info
=======================================================
(3) fightback - articles and pointers distribution list
(html/text) - expert informed opin., credentialed authors
----> http://pnews.org/dada/
========================================================
(4) ATTN: WEBMASTERS - Link Exchange/improve site rank
----> links_only-subscribe(at)googlegroups.com - or, go to:
-----> http://groups.google.com/group/Links_Only
|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
