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The Jews stole "Israel" in the first place, as the Torah readily 
admits.  The original inhabitants still have descendants all over the 
area, most with varying degrees of Jewish blood - no small amount of 
which they got from Jewish rapists over the course of several thousand 
years.
Let's try the shoe on the other foot.  It's true all of the americas are 
inhabited largely by land thieves and the descendants of land thieves.  
There is every justification for the small percentage of remaining 
natives to require the invaders from all of the old world to go back 
where they came from, whether they came here willingly or not.  But 
assuming that's not going to happen, how about just acknowledging that 
such form of title as the invaders have made for themselves is 
completely legitimate.

In that case, no one has any right to complain no matter which gang of 
"terrorists" shows up demanding whatever lives or property they choose, 
and lacking cooperation, just dispenses destruction.

The whole argument is nothing more than a death trap.  Whoever has the 
biggest, baddest WMD and correspondingly adaptable ethics wins.  
Americans in general may not mind terribly the way that sounds at 
present, and they may be so into themselves and careless about the 
future that no thought is given to the year 2100, or even 2010.  But 
it's worth considering that their have been several other groups try 
that before, and fail miserably.  For instance, Latin is today 
considered a dead language.

Pursuing that example a bit, there was a long period of ignorance and 
suffering after the Romans fizzled under their own gluttony and hubris.  
Considering the type, quality and quantity of weapons available today, 
that kind of sleep is quite likely to be much longer, deeper and 
possibly not even recoverable.

Failure to learn to accommodate one another in today's world is an 
unforgivably criminal offense.  People who feel otherwise are quite 
arguably armageddonists to one degree or another.  As such, those of us 
who are eager to compromise with one another and find ways of living 
together on an ever smaller planet with ever scarcer resources would 
appreciate it very much if the armageddonists would kindly kill 
themselves, quietly, in some tidy way off in a corner, so the rest of us 
can get on with our lives and not have to look at any more bodies of 
blown up babies, for instance.

And that goes for the suicide bombers as nicely as it does for the thugs 
and gangsters in US, Israeli, etc., military uniforms.

Even worse than all the land thieves, everywhere, are the criminals who 
have led them to the acts of thievery;  properly led, or even left 
alone, the average person - at least in today's world - would probably 
find ways to coexist without all the killing, rape, and thieving.

Peace,

billy rainbow

Hank Roth wrote:

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>There is that constant refrain from Israel's critics that Israelis are 
>colonizers and they are on "stolen land." It is ironic that they can 
>distinguish between Israel being on so-called stolen land and their 
>parents or the parents of their parents coming to America and being on 
>stolen, confiscated property because everyone at one time or another was 
>on someone elses land and it was common in the history of this country - 
>for land to be acquired by force of conquest. Every piece of sand on the 
>American continent was acquired by force or it was purchased from a 
>foreign power that acquired it by force.
>Title as Valid as It Gets
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>An abstract of title in Florida shows a line of ownership all the way back 
>to the Queen of Spain when it was given to someone as a grant for services 
>performed for the crown. And how did the Queen of Spain acquire the land? 
>By force of course. The deed to that land is just as valid as any other 
>deed of conveyance. Whether you like it or not, it is as valid as it gets. 
>And so is Israel's title to the land of Israel.
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>And Jews are among the worse self-criticizers and most guilt ridden people 
>I know. I don't believe we have anything to feel sorry or guilty about. 
>The land of Israel belonged to Jews once and belongs to Jews again. Some 
>have tried to take it away and some have been successful but a return to 
>the land and possession of the land is in itself a valid title to the 
>land.
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