Who is pulling the strings of billionaire neocons like Rupert Murdoch, Marc Rich, Michael Bloomberg, Sheldon Adelson, Mort Zuckerman, Bruce Kovner, Sumner Redstone, Richard Mellon Scaife, etc.? Can you name any names as viable candidates? Please don't tell me George W. Bush -- these neocons are vastly more wealthy and powerful than Bush, and could easily drive him out of office with a snap of their fingers. Bush has been useful to them as an instrument of aggression and violence in the Middle East against the enemies of Israel.
Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: well, lets look at some "wealthy" and "independent" oligarchs. khodorkovsky, well it turns out he was "just holding" those yukos shares for lord rothschild. j. p. morgan, well turns out all that money wasnt exactly his either... here your presupposition is that these "irrational cultists" are "not being controlled." of course you can't prove this, because the way it is framed, you would have to prove a negative. but it doesnt jibe with the fact either, imo. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [political-research] Debra Cagan; BushCo's Scary-Hairy, Iranian-Hater-In-Chief The world isn't being run by any one group, rational or irrational. It's the scene of a collision of multiple interests and power centers contending for control, with varying mixtures of rationality and irrationality in their respective programs. Presently the most irrational group on the world stage is the neoconservatives, who are skilled in falsely dressing up their ethnocentric and genocidal messianism with the language of universal Enlightenment rationalism. No other group is manipulating them -- certainly not the traditional Anglo power elite. The neocons are much too wealthy and independently powerful to be manipulated effectively by other groups. Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: irrationality is a weakness. your "empirical" approach breaks down when we get to your axioms. one of those axioms is "THE WORLD IS BEING RUN BY IRRATIONAL CULTISTS." ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: Re: [political-research] Debra Cagan; BushCo's Scary-Hairy, Iranian-Hater-In-Chief You're still trapped in a false dichotomy which is reducing your ability to grasp the deepest springs of world history and human behavior. Many of the most rational and calculating manipulators on the planet are driven by irrational belief systems that are entirely insane. Rationality and irrationality are intermixed in human psychology in complex ways. Zealots who share Debra Cagan's irrational cult beliefs and genocidal hatred for cult outsiders are presently in control of and manipulating the Bush 43 administration and American foreign policy. Traditional American foreign policy realists and rationalists, like James Baker and Zbigniew Brzezinski, have been openly and sincerely opposing neocon fanatics like Debra Cagan and Frederick Kagan. By the way, the mainstream media so far are trying to bury this story, which is perfectly predictable -- they are controlled by neocons who share the same agenda as Debra Cagan. Usually they try to hide what they really believe and what they are really up to. Compare Google News and Google Blog searches on [debra cagan] to see what I am talking about. This should be a screaming front page story in the mainstream media. Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: irrational people are manipulated by people who have more rationality and cold calculus. ----- Original Message ----- From: Sean McBride To: political-research@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: [political-research] Debra Cagan; BushCo's Scary-Hairy, Iranian-Hater-In-Chief [Neocon Old Testament genocidal racism is what is driving Bush 43 military aggression in the Middle East -- not rational strategic calculations of the American national interest. Debra Cagan is one of hundreds of interchangeable neoconservative haters who are agitating for the mass murder of cult outsiders, and who have heavily infiltrated American government agencies.] Sent to you by Sean McBride via Google Reader: *Debra Cagan*; BushCo's Scary-Hairy, Iranian-Hater-In-Chief via Google Blog Search: Debra Cagan by Richard on 9/29/07 Something for the weekend? Try this for size. Question: What's the connection between the scary looking man woman weirdo person pictured below, and ... (A) A bunch of British Members of Parliament. ... Things you can do from here: Visit the original item on Google Blog Search: Debra Cagan Subscribe to Google Blog Search: Debra Cagan using Google Reader Get started using Google Reader to easily keep up with all your favorite sites --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM --------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 9/29/2007 9:46 PM