Who is pulling the strings of billionaire neocons like Rupert Murdoch, Marc 
Rich, Michael Bloomberg, Sheldon Adelson, Mort Zuckerman, Bruce Kovner, Sumner 
Redstone, Richard Mellon Scaife, etc.?  Can you name any names as viable 
candidates?  Please don't tell me George W. Bush -- these neocons are vastly 
more wealthy and powerful than Bush, and could easily drive him out of office 
with a snap of their fingers.  Bush has been useful to them as an instrument of 
aggression and violence in the Middle East against the enemies of Israel.

Vigilius Haufniensis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                                 
 
well, lets look at some "wealthy" and "independent"  oligarchs.  khodorkovsky, 
well it turns out he was "just holding" those  yukos shares for lord 
rothschild.  j. p. morgan, well turns out all that  money wasnt exactly his 
either...
 here your presupposition is that these "irrational  cultists" are "not being 
controlled."  of course you can't prove this,  because the way it is framed, 
you would have to prove a negative.  but it  doesnt jibe with the fact either, 
imo.
  
  
  
    ----- Original Message ----- 
   From:    Sean    McBride 
   To: political-research@yahoogroups.com    
   Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 8:58    PM
   Subject: Re: [political-research] Debra    Cagan; BushCo's Scary-Hairy, 
Iranian-Hater-In-Chief
   

The world isn't being run by any one group, rational or    irrational.  It's 
the scene of a collision of multiple interests and    power centers contending 
for control, with varying mixtures of rationality and    irrationality in their 
respective programs.  Presently the most    irrational group on the world stage 
is the neoconservatives, who are skilled    in falsely dressing up their 
ethnocentric and genocidal messianism with the    language of universal 
Enlightenment rationalism.  No other group is    manipulating them -- certainly 
not the traditional Anglo power elite. The    neocons are much too wealthy and 
independently powerful to be manipulated    effectively by other groups.

Vigilius Haufniensis    <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:             
     irrationality is a weakness.  your      "empirical" approach breaks down 
when we get to your axioms.  one of      those axioms is "THE WORLD IS BEING 
RUN BY IRRATIONAL  CULTISTS."
      
      
            -----        Original Message ----- 
       From:        Sean        McBride 
       To:        political-research@yahoogroups.com        
       Sent:        Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:43 PM
       Subject:        Re: [political-research] Debra Cagan; BushCo's 
Scary-Hairy,        Iranian-Hater-In-Chief
       

You're still trapped in a false dichotomy which is reducing        your ability 
to grasp the deepest springs of world history and human        behavior.  Many 
of the most rational and calculating manipulators on        the planet are 
driven by irrational belief systems that are entirely        insane.  
Rationality and irrationality are intermixed in human        psychology in 
complex ways.  Zealots who share Debra Cagan's        irrational cult beliefs 
and genocidal hatred for cult outsiders are        presently in control of and 
manipulating the Bush 43 administration and        American foreign policy.  
Traditional American foreign policy        realists and rationalists, like 
James Baker and Zbigniew Brzezinski, have        been openly and sincerely 
opposing neocon fanatics like Debra Cagan and        Frederick Kagan.

By the way, the mainstream media so far are trying        to bury this story, 
which is perfectly predictable -- they are controlled        by neocons who 
share the same agenda as Debra Cagan.  Usually they        try to hide what 
they really believe and what they are really up to.         Compare Google News 
and Google Blog searches on [debra cagan] to see what        I am talking 
about.  This should be a screaming front page story in        the mainstream 
media.

Vigilius Haufniensis        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:                          
         irrational people are manipulated by people          who have more 
rationality and cold calculus.
          
          
                    -----            Original Message ----- 
           From:            Sean            McBride 
           To:            political-research@yahoogroups.com            
           Sent:            Sunday, September 30, 2007 7:24 PM
           Subject:            [political-research] Debra Cagan; BushCo's 
Scary-Hairy,            Iranian-Hater-In-Chief
           

[Neocon Old Testament genocidal racism is what is            driving Bush 43 
military aggression in the Middle East -- not rational            strategic 
calculations of the American national interest. Debra Cagan            is one 
of hundreds of interchangeable neoconservative haters who are            
agitating for the mass murder of cult outsiders, and who have heavily           
 infiltrated American government agencies.]

            
            
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                                 *Debra            Cagan*; BushCo's 
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           via Google            Blog Search: Debra Cagan by Richard on 9/29/07

Something            for the weekend? Try this for size. Question: What's the 
connection            between the scary looking man woman weirdo person 
pictured below, and            ... (A) A bunch of British Members of 
Parliament. ...

            
            
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