We seem to have a major cognitive glitch here -- you are failing to address any of the main points I've made on this topic.
Rosalee Grable <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://google.com/search?q=jones+wq2rx Planehuggers ARE the "most likely suspects for 911" -- The ones who were not killed were given positions in the coverup , like 911 Actor Perp Gary Welz, who was repurposed as a "911 Scholar" in the aftermath. Fortunately he was confronted with his lies, and he recanted his planeseeing abilities. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=gary+welz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEuyGm6qSO4 the Big Takeover, part two - the 9/11 network scam 911 Flatline http://www.livevideo.com/video/4A2FDAFC04C14AECA5B6640F67E58F34/911-flatline-part-3.aspx Sean McBride wrote: > The main problem with the no-planers: vicious fanaticism and > intolerance. They have expended much more energy in attacking the > most effective voices in the 9/11 Truth Movement than in going after > the most likely suspects for 9/11. We don't know that they are a > COINTELPRO-style op, but we do know that this is precisely what such > an op would look like. > > 9/11 truth seekers should keep an open mind about competing theories > concerning the who, how and why of 9/11 until all the facts are in, > and treat opposing views with civility as part of the truth-seeking > process. The no-planers have attempted to disrupt and destroy this > amity at every turn. > > The HOW of 9/11 strikes me as a minor detail -- I am much more > interested in the WHO, WHY and what's next on the dance card in the > campaign to instigate World War IV. > > */John Leonard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > At 10/31/2007 11:00 AM, you wrote: >> Most likely because the no planers are a hoax. Attempting to >> rationalize with them is impossible - it seems that when they >> have fixated on this issue they aren't able to listen to any >> reason or logic. >> The evidence that no planers are way out in left field is fairly >> overwhelming and anyone who looks at thier evidence - objectively >> - can see this. >> It seems that the rest of the Truth Movement is trying hard to >> either show the no-planers some reason - mostly they wont listen >> - and since thier lineo f thought does *_NOTHING but hurt _*the >> truth movement, I suspect this is why AJ isn;t putting up with >> the garbage. >> The whole theory does more harm than good. >> Even if it is correct (and I havent seen any evidence save fuzzy >> video to say it is) the no planers are doing more harm than good >> in trying to further the movement. Even f they are correct, the >> believablility factor is such that anyone who was on the edge of >> considering 9/11 as an inside job, immediatley is turned off by >> this far out theory. > > I will second Andy Long. > > My father was "into" conspiracy theories like the Money Masters. > He was right about a great many things, as I realized after he > passed away. But unfortunately, he had also picked up a couple > poison pills. > He used to try like anything to win me over to the alternative > viewpoint. I'd listen politely, and he would make some yardage, > but then he would mention the Nephelin, the shape-shifting > reptilians. > Well, a course in biology was part of my education, and creatures > that can change their shape between human and reptile are just too > big a stretch. > My very strong reaction was to throw out everything else he had > said and stick with my mainstream vanilla conformity. > Decades of work out the window! > > TV fakery might not even be as big a stretch as Nephelins, but if > you have tried as hard as I have to explain basic stuff like free > fall speed and explosive demolition, and see people rationalize, > change the subject, appeal to authority and every other fallacy in > the book, instead of facing what's clear as a sunny day, so that > you still can't make a bit of headway - well, let's put it this way: > > It's so hard to get a day in court with the brainwashed public, > that you definitely want to present ONLY your best evidence when > you get a chance to make your case. > > > >> Any no-planers who are truely in this to help out and strengthen >> the movement can see this - its obvious - so those who continue >> despite this fact are then thrown in a catagory (correct or not) >> of "disinfo" artists - thier intent is viewed as trying to hurt >> the progression, not help. >> So, I imagine until the no-planers can step up with some evidence >> that passes critical thinking tests, they will continue to be >> viewed as the 'bad guys' of the truth movement. >> Right or wrong, its how I read the situation. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Ray Antoky <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 11:31 AM >> Subject: [911TruthAction] 9/11 Video Fakery Prison Planet >> >> Friends, >> Just attempted to post a new article on Prison Planet >> broaching the >> idea of video fakery and presenting a mild argument for fake >> planes >> such as soft noses can't penetrate steel builings and a plane >> can't >> enter a building whole without breaking etc. Innocent enough >> on a >> supposedly open forum. Guess what? I was IMMEDIATELY BANNED >> from using >> the forums. How can that be? I thought Alex Jones was the >> premier >> expert on every conspiracy under the sun. I thought he was a >> friend to >> all the downtrodden mind-controlled manipulated folks. I >> thought he >> was the savior. Could it be that he is really a BAD GUY? Thta >> he does >> not want his minions to know that 9/11 was a hoax? A video >> joke on the >> world? What is left to believe in if I can't trust Prison >> Planet? What >> site can I go to for real inside honest info that is not >> controlled by >> the enemy? Rense? Rumor Mill News?Any suggestions? TV fakery is >> completely banned at the Prison Planet forum. How can that >> be? Don't >> those nice people want to be informed? >> Poor me, I need a new messiah. >> Ray Antoky, Brooklyn >> >> > >
