Gaar,

I quote from your post, "Looks like the masses are afraid that Obama
will become Presiden tand raise their taxes".
 I would like to know what that statement has to do with the Federal
Govt. choosing to bail out these two instituions, using tax payer
money of course.

I don't give the slightest fuck who is in favor of the bail out.  I
would like you to answer the question I asked.

Somebody, at some point in time will have to raise taxes to pay for
all this shit.




On Sep 8, 5:07 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Who said it did?
>
> Let us not forget that Obama is in favor of the Bail Out as well.
>
> On Sep 8, 3:05 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > Gaar,
>
> > Please clarify what "the masses" have to do with this administration's
> > decision to bail out Freddie Mae amd Fannie.
>
> > On Sep 8, 4:34 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Who said things were going well?
>
> > > Looks like the masses are afraid that Obama will become President and
> > > raise their Taxes.
>
> > > On Sep 8, 2:29 pm, VT Sean Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Republicans and McCain if things are going so well,
> > > > why the $5 Trillion Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae Bailout?
>
> > > > The tax cuts should have gone to the middle class,
> > > > not the richest Americans. It is very clear that trickle down
> > > > did not work.
>
> > > > It is very clear it is the American middle class who need the
> > > > help.
>
> > > > It is very clear that after 6 years of the Bush Tax cuts the
> > > > 11 Million jobs and the prosperity Bush Promised these tax
> > > > cuts would bring never happened.
>
> > > > The bottom line is that the Americans who will have to PAY
> > > > for this bailout will be the MIDDLE CLASS, because the
> > > > Republicans want to make the Tax Cuts to the Rich Permanent.
>
> > > > Is this the change McCain talks about, because he supports
> > > > the Bush Tax cuts.
>
> > > > Fannie, Freddie deal helps some borrowers, not all By J.W.
> > > > ELPHINSTONE, AP Business Writer
> > > > Mon Sep 8, 1:27 PM ET
>
> > > > The government's historic bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on
> > > > Sunday will be good news to homebuyers and some homeowners hoping to
> > > > refinance if it leads to lower mortgage rates, as experts expect.
>
> > > > But for homeowners already behind on their mortgage payments, or who
> > > > owe more than their homes are now worth, the plan unveiled Sunday by
> > > > Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson offers little in the way of extra
> > > > relief.
>
> > > > "The bailout will give the mortgage industry a stability that we
> > > > haven't had in a couple of years," said Rich Cosner, president of
> > > > Prudential California Realty. "But frankly no, it won't help
> > > > (struggling borrowers) to refinance."
>
> > > > Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac play a critical and increasingly dominant
> > > > role in the mortgage market. The companies buy mortgage loans from
> > > > banks and package those loans into securities that they either hold or
> > > > sell to U.S. and foreign investors. That allows traditional lenders
> > > > like Bank of America, Wells Fargo and Washington Mutual to make more
> > > > loans.
>
> > > > Together, Fannie and Freddie own or guarantee about $5 trillion in
> > > > home loans, about half the nation's total. But an alarming number of
> > > > those loans started going into default, draining the companies'
> > > > financial reserves and sending a chill through credit markets
> > > > worldwide. As investors grew more skittish, borrowing costs started
> > > > rising.
>
> > > > By placing Fannie and Freddie into a conservatorship, the government
> > > > is promising investors that the companies' debt is as safe as the
> > > > Treasury Department's.
>
> > > > While not a cure-all, the bailout is still a step in the right
> > > > direction, industry observers say. It will at least "keep the lanes in
> > > > the mortgage freeway open," said Greg McBride, a senior financial
> > > > analyst at Bankrate.com, possibly putting the market on the road to
> > > > recovery.
>
> > > > If mortgage rates fall, that will attract more potential buyers into
> > > > the market, which, in turn, will help to prop up home prices, he said.- 
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