gaar,

Two conseqetive quarters showing negative growth is the classic
definition.
So, i wonder why you used the term? I quote you, "Recession is not
Depression."

On Sep 16, 3:20 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No.
>
> We had GROWTH last Qtr, as well as the QTR before that.
>
> You understand that Recession has a definition, right?
>
> On Sep 16, 6:54 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > gaar,
>
> > So, you now agree that we are in a recession?
>
> > On Sep 16, 8:45 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > Recession is not Depression...
>
> > > Many said the same thing of the Policies Reagan put in place during
> > > the early '80's.
>
> > > On Sep 16, 6:42 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > No it doesn't, it means another family is thrown on the street, which
> > > > becomes a drain on government services. How many job losses so far
> > > > this year 700,000, with thousands more acknowledged to be lost just in
> > > > the finance industry because of today's crash. Every job lost means
> > > > another job lost in an affiliated industry meaning less money to
> > > > spend, leading to further business down turn, leading to more layoff
> > > > leading to more defaults. With "at least" another 5 million home
> > > > default expected by 2012 how many more families will end up on the
> > > > street or relying on welfare? Debt doesn't disappear, someone must pay
> > > > and it is ALWAYS the worker that get stuck with the bill..
>
> > > > Go to this site Gaarhttp://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat.htm.
> > > > It will give you all the info you need, it is very comprehensive. He
> > > > is a believer in the free market, Milton Freidman and Ludwig Von
> > > > Mises, who I think are imbeciles. Nevertheless, this guy is very
> > > > worried about the US debt situation and has gone to a great deal of
> > > > trouble compiling data from the Fed Bureau of stats to warn Americans
> > > > of the gravity of this problem.
>
> > > > Its no good telling me to keep a perspective on things when capitalist
> > > > economists are predicting as Greenspan said "a once in a hundred year
> > > > recession". He said that, not me.  You need to come to grips with what
> > > > is really occuring. Go to bloombergs now, see for yourself.
>
> > > > On Sep 16, 11:12 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > Frank,
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> > > > > What you fail to realize is that with each Foreclosure, that number
> > > > > changes, for the better.
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> > > > > The reason it got so bad was because of these bad Loans, and once they
> > > > > work their way out of the System, we are heading back up.
>
> > > > > Yes, there may be as many as 5% - 7% of Total Mortgages that may end
> > > > > up being affected, overall and those are going to take a bit to work
> > > > > through..
>
> > > > > But may I remind you that means that at LEAST 93% will in FACT
> > > > > continue to pay their Mortgages on time without problems.
>
> > > > > During the Great Depression, that number went up to well over 50%.
>
> > > > > So let's try to keep a bit of perspective on this, shall we?
>
> > > > > On Sep 16, 6:07 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > Gaar,
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> > > > > > The main concern with the debt is not the collateral, it is the
> > > > > > ability to service it. Last year US debt grew 5.5 times that of GDP,
> > > > > > meaning America can not keep up with current debt repayments and
> > > > > > requires one trillion in loans per annum to finance debt, further
> > > > > > compounding the problem. I can't remember the precise figure (do a
> > > > > > google search), but the average US household debt is over 100% of
> > > > > > income over per annum. Any collateral they have is owned by finance
> > > > > > companies.
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> > > > > > On Sep 16, 10:47 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Perhaps those who have been railing on about this would be good 
> > > > > > > enough
> > > > > > > to also tell us how much "Net Worth" JUST American Households 
> > > > > > > have,
> > > > > > > not including the Net Worth of our Governmental Assets?!?!?!?!?
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