This post happened BEFORE mine that I cite Recession and Depression...

Now, care to tell me who used the term first again?


On Sep 16, 6:42 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No it doesn't, it means another family is thrown on the street, which
> becomes a drain on government services. How many job losses so far
> this year 700,000, with thousands more acknowledged to be lost just in
> the finance industry because of today's crash. Every job lost means
> another job lost in an affiliated industry meaning less money to
> spend, leading to further business down turn, leading to more layoff
> leading to more defaults. With "at least" another 5 million home
> default expected by 2012 how many more families will end up on the
> street or relying on welfare? Debt doesn't disappear, someone must pay
> and it is ALWAYS the worker that get stuck with the bill..
>
> Go to this site Gaarhttp://mwhodges.home.att.net/nat-debt/debt-nat.htm.
> It will give you all the info you need, it is very comprehensive. He
> is a believer in the free market, Milton Freidman and Ludwig Von
> Mises, who I think are imbeciles. Nevertheless, this guy is very
> worried about the US debt situation and has gone to a great deal of
> trouble compiling data from the Fed Bureau of stats to warn Americans
> of the gravity of this problem.
>
> Its no good telling me to keep a perspective on things when capitalist
> economists are predicting as Greenspan said "a once in a hundred year
> recession". He said that, not me.  You need to come to grips with what
> is really occuring. Go to bloombergs now, see for yourself.
>
> On Sep 16, 11:12 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Frank,
>
> > What you fail to realize is that with each Foreclosure, that number
> > changes, for the better.
>
> > The reason it got so bad was because of these bad Loans, and once they
> > work their way out of the System, we are heading back up.
>
> > Yes, there may be as many as 5% - 7% of Total Mortgages that may end
> > up being affected, overall and those are going to take a bit to work
> > through..
>
> > But may I remind you that means that at LEAST 93% will in FACT
> > continue to pay their Mortgages on time without problems.
>
> > During the Great Depression, that number went up to well over 50%.
>
> > So let's try to keep a bit of perspective on this, shall we?
>
> > On Sep 16, 6:07 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Gaar,
>
> > > The main concern with the debt is not the collateral, it is the
> > > ability to service it. Last year US debt grew 5.5 times that of GDP,
> > > meaning America can not keep up with current debt repayments and
> > > requires one trillion in loans per annum to finance debt, further
> > > compounding the problem. I can't remember the precise figure (do a
> > > google search), but the average US household debt is over 100% of
> > > income over per annum. Any collateral they have is owned by finance
> > > companies.
>
> > > On Sep 16, 10:47 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Perhaps those who have been railing on about this would be good enough
> > > > to also tell us how much "Net Worth" JUST American Households have,
> > > > not including the Net Worth of our Governmental Assets?!?!?!?!?
>
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>
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