There is only one border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, not two...
The problem with nation-states is their borders conflict with tribal
boundaries...  A Paki Pushan IS INVADING Afghanistan if he goes to
Afghanistan to fight -- at least in the eyes of Pakistan and
Afghanistan...

You want to apply two different standards to nation-states and
tribes...  The modern world and th UN recognize one one...   While the
boundaries of nation-states and tribe clash, the basis of UN is nation-
state boundaries...  Frankly the demands, formulations, and
limitations of European notion of ethnic nation-states IS THE CAUSE OF
THE PROBLEM HERE...  Kosova and Georgia aand the Pushans are but
examples of the problems...

On Sep 16, 5:45 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Confirmed , historical, tribal warfare that knows no boundary is and
> was not the question. it is about a FOREIGN army crossing what is
> supposed to be an ALLIES'  territory without permission and killing
> who they please.
>
> what part of that don't you get??
>
> It is the absolute equivalence of the Mexican Army persuing or hunting
> drug dealers who do business on both sides of the border in the "War
> on Drugs" onto US soil and killing a few dealers along with a lot of
> civilians. Blowing up an apartment building because a dealer lives
> there ......... Just how well would that sit with you??
>
> On 9/16/08, jgg1000a <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Does this also mean the border Pakistani Pushans have the right to
> > cross the  border and attack Afghanistan Pushans???  Or does the right
> > to make their own laws and have self-defense apply to Pakistanis but
> > not Afghanis???
>
> > On Sep 16, 4:58 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I.ve been around and do accept it as Gospel!!!!!!!!! The problem is
> > > someone forgot to tell the Pakistanis and all those pesky people that
> > > think they have a right to make their own laws and defend themselves.
>
> > > On 9/16/08, Zebnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > The Bush Doctrine. Where have you been?
>
> > > > On Sep 16, 1:58 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > d.b.
>
> > > > > The question was what gives the U.S. the right (as in legal right) to
> > > > > invade the territory of another sovreign nation? NOT what is the
> > > > > excuse for doing so. You understand the difference?
>
> > > > > On Sep 16, 11:25 am, "d.b.baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Sep 16, 12:17 pm, "Mark Kahle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > Why does the US supposedly have the right to impose themselves on
> > > > > > > another nations soil??
>
> > > > > > Are you not aware of the situation in Pakistan, specifically its use
> > > > > > as a safe haven and staging area for AQ/Taliban?
>
> > > > > > Which makes you double question mark all the more remarkable.- Hide 
> > > > > > quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > --
> > > Mark M. Kahle
> > > Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me
>
> --
> Mark M. Kahle
> Blessed are the bewildered for they don't know the difference.... Me
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