Obama is a fucking capitalist pig, he is not a fucking socialist.You
fucks are fucking desperate

On Sep 19, 7:59 am, piratelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The only message he and the rest of the demoshits ever had was
> socialism is
> great.  rah rah rah SOCIALISM
>
> ----------------
> Oh I think that is going on as we speak....Bush did a bang up job in
> getting us there.
>
> On Sep 18, 3:25 pm, Travis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The only message he and the rest of the demoshits ever had was socialism is
> > great.  rah rah rah SOCIALISM
>
> > On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Keith In Tampa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
> > >  *Can Obama Get Back On Message?*
> > > **
> > >http://www.powerlineblog.com/
>
> > > John McCain's selection of Sarah Palin threw Barack Obama off his stride 
> > > to
> > > the extent that it sometimes seems that he thinks he is running against
> > > Palin for Vice President. The conventional wisdom is that Obama needs to 
> > > get
> > > back on message.
>
> > > Perhaps. I wonder, though, what message he is supposed to get back to?
> > > Obama won the Democratic nomination with two themes: 1) I represent 
> > > change,
> > > and 2) I'm the purest anti-war candidate. But even by the middle of the
> > > Democratic primary process those themes were wearing thin. Obama's
> > > substance-free "yes we can" mantra had become a standing joke and, with 
> > > the
> > > U.S. well on the way to success in Iraq, Obama's anti-war position was
> > > becoming simultaneously suspect and moot.
>
> > > When he transitioned to the general election, Obama acted as though he 
> > > were
> > > running against George Bush. His main message was that John McCain is a 
> > > Bush
> > > clone. But that message didn't sell, and the more the public focuses on 
> > > the
> > > race, listens to McCain and looks forward rather than backward, the less
> > > power it has. John McCain is obviously anything but the second coming of
> > > George Bush.
>
> > > It is true, of course, that Bush is unpopular and that after either party
> > > has occupied the White House for eight years, countless grievances have
> > > accumulated and many voters are ready to give the other guys a chance. But
> > > that is a fact, not a message. It's already factored into the candidates'
> > > standing in the polls, and Obama can't just stand up and say "I'm not a
> > > Republican." Besides, Republicans' standing with the voters, as measured 
> > > by
> > > party identification and generic Congressional preference, is rising, not
> > > falling.
>
> > > So what, exactly, is the message that Obama should go back to? It's not an
> > > easy question to answer. He can't focus on his own achievements, because
> > > there aren't many. Worse, major areas of Obama's past are off limits. He
> > > really doesn't want to open up a conversation about his years in Indonesia
> > > or at Harvard Law School, or about his work as a "community organizer" in
> > > Chicago or the friends he made there. Nor can he talk in any detail about
> > > his role as a legislator in Springfield or Washington, since he has been a
> > > go along/get along careerist, not a reformer like John McCain or Sarah
> > > Palin.
>
> > > What does that leave? Mostly, hoping for bad news. The Obama campaign
> > > assumes that anything bad that happens, whether a hurricane or a 
> > > bankruptcy,
> > > somehow strengthens their position. They might be right. But, apart from 
> > > the
> > > fact that it's not a very attractive basis on which to run for President,
> > > it's not at all clear that if times are tough, it will make people want to
> > > pull the lever for an untested, unqualified, uncreative and--strangest of
> > > all--still largely unknown politician.
>
> > > So it will be interesting to see what message, exactly, Obama decides to
> > > get "back" to.
>
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