Jim W.
Tsk, tsk, you are such a disappointment. I fully expected a vigorous
and lively engagement as you staunchly defended your nine points with
the giant brain and brilliant literary skills you claim to be in
possession of.
On Sep 18, 10:00 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jim W.
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> Where'd you do dude? Don't you want to defend #4?
> C'mon, mount your defense and I'll go on to the next target.
>
> On Sep 18, 9:41 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > Jim W.
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> > I think I will address some of your points as I have time and the
> > inclination. How about #4 this morning with my 2nd cup of coffee?
>
> > Stop corporate pillaging. No punative damages, only compensatory?
> > So basically you are saying that corporations should not suffer ANY
> > punishment whatsoever for whatever they do? And you take this stance
> > because to punish the corporation is to really punish the
> > shareholders, who I'm sure you would like to portray as an elderly,
> > blind old school-marm who depends on that dividend check to buy her
> > medicine and Ensure and food for her seeing eye dog. By that logic i
> > should be able to rob a bank and IF caught simply pay back the money I
> > stole and proceed to the next bank. I guess if you are sooooo terribly
> > concerned about our blind school marm we could have corp. X pay
> > compensatory damages and give their board members serious jail time. I
> > guess right about now your looking up the famous lawsuit where the
> > lady sued the shit out of mcDonalds after spilling hot coffee in her
> > lap, or one similar to it.
> > A punitive financial penality must be large enough to actually
> > provide punishment. Would I give a damn about parking in front of a
> > fire hydrant if the fine was a dime? Make the fine $100.00 and tow
> > away my car, which will cost be another couple of hundred $ to get
> > back, and I'll be more careful the next time, won't I?
> > Will a corporation pass the cost of such judgements on to their
> > customers? Of course they will. Maybe they will have to raise prices
> > so much as to lose business to their competitors. My response to that
> > is GOOD. THAT'S the punitive part.
> > Yeah, yeah I know, frivilous lawsuits abound. Well, if they are REALLY
> > frivilous they will be throw out of court. Labeling lawsuits you don't
> > like "frivilous" dose not make them frivilous. That's for a judge and
> > sometimes a jury to decide.
> > It's all about the money. A corporation's blood is money. The only way
> > to punish a corporation or to get it to change it's ways is to make it
> > BLEED. Bleed it white and "it" will finally listen.
> > Conservative administrations has de-fanged many of the reglatory
> > agencies such as OSHA. In many cases a lawsuit it the ONLY way left to
> > the citizen, or a group of them, to get compensation and/or any sort
> > of justice from a corporation. And that's why CorpoRat conservatives
> > are so hot about what they call "tort reform".
> > Got to go for now, lawn need mowing.
>
> > On Sep 17, 7:56 pm, Jim Willis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
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> > > 1.Since Fannie and Freddie has been introduced to the American
> > > vernacular let’s start here. The government needs to get out of the
> > > mortgage business, once and for all. Both of these companies have been
> > > suckling at the teat of bloated federal plutocracies far too long.
> > > Fannie and Freddie need to be broken into a thousand pieces and
> > > privatized. The federal government should have no attachment or
> > > responsibility. And, the bailing out ends now, for good.
> > > 2.In promised entitlements our government is indebted $57 Trillion
> > > dollars. If not dealt with, it will destroy our country. Since
> > > government has proven that they are incapable of running anything…
> > > Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid should be privatized. The
> > > switch to privatization will be costly and take time to implement. To
> > > cover the initial cost increases see solution three.
> > > 3.There are far too many people in this country who have chosen to
> > > ride in the wagon while too few of us are pulling. Our tax policy
> > > rewards failure and punishes success guaranteeing less of one and more
> > > of the other. We should institute the, “Fair Tax” which abolishes the
> > > IRS and incorporates a federal sales tax instead of a payroll tax.
> > > With the fair tax, the burden is shared and pimps, hookers and drug
> > > dealers will finally carry their share of financing our federal
> > > government. Just maybe, with everyone pulling the wagon and sharing
> > > the burden, those not paying attention to federal spending might start
> > > doing so. Forty percent of Americans pay no federal tax yet take
> > > advantage of a great and greater share of our services.
> > > 4.Stop corporate pillaging, called the Breck girl law. Corporations
> > > spend billions of dollars each year defending themselves from John
> > > Edwards and the trial lawyers. A recent study found most of the
> > > plaintiff suits to be unworthy of litigation. The most egregious
> > > caveat of these suits is punitive damages. Compensatory damages
> > > compensate a plaintiff for any loss of earnings, medical bills or even
> > > the loss of life. Punitive damages are a punishment to a corporation.
> > > Yet, the corporation is not punished, the shareholders are, the actual
> > > owners who had nothing to do with the original wrong. Settlements
> > > should be limited to compensatory damages only.
> > > 5.As long as we are speaking of lawyers let’s right another wrong of
> > > jurisprudence. I’ve had it with perps across the fruited plain
> > > escaping punishment because their rights were violated. This is the
> > > dumbest ruling ever to come out of the United States Supreme Court.
> > > It’s known as fruit of the poisonous tree. Look, if some child rapist
> > > has his rights violated by some flatfoot in Podunk Louisiana then
> > > punish the damn cop. The raped child violated no ones rights, the cop
> > > did, punish him and lynch the rapist. The fact that his rights may
> > > have been violated does not affect his guilt or innocence.
> > > 6.Drill for oil everywhere. Let’s start by drilling through Harry
> > > Reid’s head, though I doubt we’d find anything. We have enough natural
> > > resources in this country, and off our shores to make $2 dollar gas
> > > plentiful for the next three hundred years. Standing in the way of
> > > this are Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. Energy is the engine of our
> > > economy and must be secured at a reasonable price. So, first we drill
> > > through Harry and Nancy’s head and then we put oil derricks in the
> > > well of the senate and the house.
> > > 7.In a massive, “Manhattan project like” energy solution we approve
> > > licenses for 500 additional nuclear power plants. This will create
> > > millions of jobs while helping to make us energy independent. And, we
> > > should insist that they are breeder reactors allowing us to use the
> > > spent fissionable waste over and over. We shouldn’t stop building
> > > until America has that fluorescing green glow. Now that’s going green!
> > > 8.We should stop pussyfooting with countries who have sworn to destroy
> > > us. Iran has threatened to annihilate Israel and the United States.
> > > They are currently building nuclear weapons to do so. What in the hell
> > > are we waiting for? We should squash these little pissants like the
> > > bugs they are. How do you negotiate with those animals intent on your
> > > destruction and are building weapons to do so?
> > > 9.In Chicago, just recently, a teacher was caught on film, not
> > > teaching but robbing a bank at gunpoint. Because of the teachers union
> > > this extra curricular activity was punished by removing the teacher
> > > from the classroom and giving him a much higher paying job in
> > > educational administration. In some cities we are spending as much as
> > > $25 thousand dollars per student, per year, only to have a drop out
> > > rate of more than fifty percent. Education must be privatized and the
> > > teachers union emasculated. Hey, aren’t liberal always harping on,
> > > “the children”? If they really cared, many teachers and union leaders
> > > would be hanging in our town squares.
> > > 10.The federal government needs to get back to enumerated powers,
> > > those authorities given to them by our constitution. The federal
> > > government enjoys the constitutional ability to provide for a common
> > > defense, print a national currency and settle disputes between the
> > > states in the area of commerce, PERIOD. {emphasis mine} The tenth
> > > amendment provides, “The powers not delegated to the United States by
> > > the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to
> > > the States respectively, or to the people. Simply put; if powers are
> > > not within the text of our constitution then they don’t exist. The
> > > federal government has their respective fingers in every pie and we
> > > the people need to cut them off and remind them of our founders’
> > > intent. After all, if we don't do it, who will?
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