Obama has repeatedly claimed he would have voted for Illinois’ version BAIPA had it included language to protect abortion rights guaranteed by Roe v. Wade, as the federal version of the bill did, which sailed through the U.S. Senate 98-0. Contrary to what Obama has said, old records from the Illinois Senate archives show Obama did vote against a BAIPA bill that included such a neutrality clause virtually identical to the federal bill.
“We have a smoking gun committee report,” said National Right to Life Committee Legislative Counsel Susan Muskett told Townhall last month. Muskett’s “smoking gun” is a 2003 Health and Human Services Committee report recorded by Republican committee staff. It documents a unanimous 10-0 vote by the 2003 Illinois Senate Health and Human Services Committee, which Obama chaired at the time, to amend BAIPA to include the exact same language that was added to the federal version to protect Roe v. Wade. The committee report also shows a subsequent “final action” vote to determine if the bill should advance out of committee or be killed. The bill was defeated 6-4. Chairman Obama voted in the majority. This means that, in essence, Obama voted to successfully amend the bill in a way that Obama has said would have enabled him to support it— before he voted against it. It also puts Obama further to the left of NARAL Pro-Choice America. According to a statement released by the abortion-rights lobby in the run-up to the U.S. Senate’s BAIPA vote in 2002, “NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act … floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.” For those who may doubt partisan records, the Republican committee report is backed by an Associated Press article that documented the 6-4 vote on the amended version of the bill. On Sep 22, 6:26 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ya know murky, it is a fact that I have presented that your boy lies > everytime he says he would have voted for a bill providing health care > to the children who survive attempted murder, if the illinois bill was > the same as the fed law. it was the same and he still voted no. what > more proof do you need? do a search on obama and health care for > abortion survivors, and you will find hundreds of sites. try it if > you dare. > > On Sep 22, 3:16 am, "mike532 [ Republicans for Obama ]" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > mark you made the claim now support it ! > > > On Sep 21, 8:16 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I just did a search on this very topic and found hundreds of sites all > > > saying that he lies, babies die. do your own God damn search murky. > > > > On Sep 21, 7:52 am, "mike532 [ Republicans for Obama ]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > no WMD claimed he did ! that is vastly different then actually > > > > showing he did ! so provide a credible link to that claim sparky > > > > > On Sep 21, 7:38 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > did you read the last paragraph murky? he voted NO to a law that was > > > > > exactly like the federal law. nobama is a liar and he supports > > > > > infanticide. and he is now attacking an abortion survivor who would > > > > > not be around today if he had his way. too bad his mama didn't follow > > > > > her son's lead, and abort him. > > > > > > On Sep 21, 7:28 am, "mike532 [ Republicans for Obama ]" > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Obama has often said, and his own website repeats, that he would > > > > > > have > > > > > > supported the Illinois state law protecting those born-alive infants > > > > > > if it had had a "neutrality" clause like the federal version, which > > > > > > states the law specifically is not intended to impact the status of > > > > > > babies before birth. > > > > > > aph murky? > > > > > > On Sep 21, 7:22 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > In the increasing flurry of this election season's negative > > > > > > > political > > > > > > > ads, the Barack Obama campaign produced a TV commercial that not > > > > > > > only > > > > > > > attacks Republican rival John McCain, but also takes aim at an > > > > > > > unusual > > > > > > > target: a 31-year-old woman who was born alive after her mother's > > > > > > > botched abortion. > > > > > > > > Obama's commercial predictably takes shots at the GOP campaign, > > > > > > > calling McCain's ads "the sleaziest ever, truly vile." But when > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > screen shows clips of abortion survivor Gianna Jessen and the ad > > > > > > > she > > > > > > > made asking Obama to reverse his stance on born alive infant > > > > > > > protection legislation, the Obama ad calls Jessen's appeal "a > > > > > > > despicable lie." > > > > > > > > The attack on Jessen has angered pro-life advocates. > > > > > > > > "It is despicable, repulsive and beneath contempt that Barack > > > > > > > Obama > > > > > > > would attack Gianna Jessen," says Jill Stanek, a pro-life > > > > > > > columnist > > > > > > > who testified before Congress in support of the federal Born Alive > > > > > > > Infants Protection Act, in a statement on Jessen's website. "She > > > > > > > is a > > > > > > > courageous abortion survivor and living miracle who would not be > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > us today if Obama's policies had been in place when she was born." > > > > > > > > Jessen herself released a statement saying, "Mr. Obama is clearly > > > > > > > blinded by political ambition given his attack on me this week. > > > > > > > All I > > > > > > > asked of him was to do the right thing: support medical care and > > > > > > > protection for babies who survive abortion – as I did." > > > > > > > > Jessen was born in a Los Angeles abortion clinic 31 years ago > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > her birth mother's saline solution abortion failed. > > > > > > > > "The abortionist was not on duty the moment I came into this > > > > > > > world," > > > > > > > Jessen said in a recent Fox News Channel "Hannity & Colmes" > > > > > > > interview. > > > > > > > "Had he been there, he would have ended my life." > > > > > > > > "He wasn't there, so a nurse called an ambulance, had me > > > > > > > transferred > > > > > > > to a hospital where I was placed in an incubator, weighing two > > > > > > > pounds," she said. > > > > > > > > Lack of oxygen to Jessen's brain resulted in cerebral palsy, and > > > > > > > her > > > > > > > doctor said she'd never be able to hold her head up, sit, walk or > > > > > > > talk. > > > > > > > > She has since, "by the grace of God" according to her testimony, > > > > > > > been > > > > > > > able to run marathons. > > > > > > > > She has also been an eloquent advocate for babies like her – who > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > born following failed abortions – through her organization, > > > > > > > BornAliveTruth.org. > > > > > > > > Jessen first drew the Obama campaign's ire for producing an > > > > > > > advertisement that points to the senator's record of voting > > > > > > > against > > > > > > > born alive infant protection laws as an Illinois state legislator. > > > > > > > > In the response ad from the Obama campaign, the video shows clips > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > Jessen's advertisement with a female voice saying, "Now, votes > > > > > > > taken > > > > > > > out of context accusing Obama of letting infants die. It's a > > > > > > > despicable lie." > > > > > > > > Obama did, however, vote against Illinois born-alive > > > > > > > infant-protection > > > > > > > bills four times, as Jessen's ad claims. > > > > > > > > Obama has often said, and his own website repeats, that he would > > > > > > > have > > > > > > > supported the Illinois state law protecting those born-alive > > > > > > > infants > > > > > > > if it had had a "neutrality" clause like the federal version, > > > > > > > which > > > > > > > states the law specifically is not intended to impact the status > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > babies before birth. > > > > > > > > As WND reported earlier, however, documentation uncovered by Doug > > > > > > > Johnson of the National Right to Life Committee reveals Obama did > > > > > > > vote > > > > > > > against a version of the Illinois law that was the same as the > > > > > > > federal > > > > > > > law, contrary to what the candidate has stated.- Hide quoted text > > > > > > > - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. 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