Unless there is some evidence that the candidates have kept the topics
to be discussed, I avoid watching political debates. They are just too
slick, and really only demonstrate who has the prettiest face.  I
don't expect much substance. I remember the Simon and Garfunkel hit
Silent night/Seven O'clock news. I was long fascinated by the old news
story that had been recorded with it.

On Sep 27, 6:14 am, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The following report from Bloombergs speaks for itself. Commander in
> Chief, what the fuck is that all about? What are we talking about?
> This debate never rose above the level of a school yard spat.
>
> This stupidly childish vile exchange, will now be examined, dissected
> and debated to death by media flunkey and hacks, when nothing worthy
> of reporting took place. This marks a new low in the historical
> struggles of mankind for freedom and equality.
>
> Obama Showed Leadership, McCain Proved Experience, Advisers Say
> By Alison Fitzgerald
>
> Sept. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Barack Obama proved he was fit to be commander-
> in-chief and John McCain showed he has a deeper knowledge of
> international affairs, two of their senior foreign- policy advisers
> said after the first presidential debate.
>
> ``Barack Obama passed the commander-in-chief test,'' former U.S.
> Ambassador to the United Nations Richard Holbrooke, an adviser to the
> Illinois senator, said on Bloomberg's Political Capital with Al Hunt
> following last night's debate.
>
> McCain adviser Lawrence Eagleburger, who served as secretary of state
> at the end of George H.W. Bush's presidency, said ``in foreign affairs
> it was a substantial victory for McCain.''
>
> McCain and Obama met for their first face-to-face debate last night
> and clashed over taxes, spending and the war in Iraq. McCain tried to
> portray Obama as a novice who was not ready to lead the United States
> in relations with foreign leaders while Obama painted McCain as having
> bad judgment, starting with his support of the 2003 invasion of Iraq.
>
> During the debate, McCain, an Arizona senator, criticized Obama for
> not supporting the addition of more U.S. troops in Iraq, which he
> called ``a strategy that has worked.'' He said Obama's call for
> setting a withdrawal date would lead to less security for the U.S.
>
> Eagleburger said McCain made a ``clear enunciation of why we should
> not be pulling out of Iraq.''
>
> Holbrooke said McCain proved himself too confrontational and unwilling
> to use diplomacy.
>
> `Confrontation and Threats'
>
> ``Everything we heard tonight from Senator McCain was in terms of
> confrontation and threats,'' Holbrooke said. He said Obama is
> ``someone who understands the use of diplomacy and economic power and
> military power as all tools you have to use.''
>
> The debate was originally intended to focus on foreign policy, yet the
> global financial crisis dominated the first 36 minutes.
>
> ``Both men were being cautious and missed an opportunity to link the
> crisis directly to national security,'' Holbrooke said. ``A country
> cannot be great and strong if the economy declines,'' he said.
>
> Neither candidate focused on China when discussing foreign policy,
> which Holbrooke said was a missed opportunity. He and Eagleburger
> agreed that the U.S. relationship with China will be the most
> important economic and strategic relationship the new president will
> have.
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