and I thought the nobama campaign was supposed to be all about change, and a new direction, and bipartisanship. does look like the same old same old doesn't it
On Oct 1, 7:30 pm, voxitar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i think this is andrew halcro, a perennial political candidate and > gadfly in alaska....he's had his ass kicked by sarah every time > they've met. > > it seems to me the strategery of the lefty palin-haters is to seek out > and find every last person in alaska who was either vanquished by > palin in a debate, lost to her in an election, or has a grudge against > her of some kind, and then ask them what they think of her. Then, run > to the media or to the web with the SHOCKING news that some folks in > alaska don't like palin. > > This is politics as usual, dog bites man stuff. *YAWN* > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:11 PM, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > so who is this supposed person who supposedly debated Sarah. or is > > this just another among many, many, many fantasies perpetrated by the > > insane, out of control loonie left, > > > On Oct 1, 7:05 pm, voxitar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Biden's in deep shit. He doesn't know how NOT to be an arrogant > >> blowhard, and Sarah connects with Joe and Josephine six-pack quite > >> well. > > >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:13 AM, mike532 [ Republicans for Obama ] > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> > I've Debated Sarah Palin More Than 20 Times -- Here's What It's Like > >> >http://www.alternet.org/election08/101011/ > >> > I know firsthand: She's a master of the nonanswer. > >> > Anchorage, Alaska - When he faces off against Sarah Palin Thursday > >> > night, Joe Biden will have his hands full. > > >> > I should know. I've debated Governor Palin more than two dozen times. > >> > And she's a master, not of facts, figures, or insightful policy > >> > recommendations, but at the fine art of the nonanswer, the glittering > >> > generality. Against such charms there is little Senator Biden, or > >> > anyone, can do. > > >> > On paper, of course, the debate appears to be a mismatch. > > >> > In 2000, Palin was the mayor of an Alaskan town of 5,500 people, while > >> > Biden was serving his 28th year as a United States senator. Her major > >> > public policy concern was building a local ice rink and sports center. > >> > His major public policy concern was the State Department's decision to > >> > grant an export license to allow sales of heavy-lift helicopters to > >> > Turkey, during tense UN-sponsored Cyprus peace talks. > > >> > On paper, the difference in experience on both domestic and foreign > >> > policy is like the difference between shooting a bullet and throwing a > >> > bullet. Unfortunately for Biden, if recent history is an indicator, > >> > experience or a grasp of the issues won't matter when it comes to > >> > debating Palin. > > >> > On April 17, 2006, Palin and I participated in a debate at the > >> > University of Alaska in Fairbanks on agriculture issues. The next day, > >> > the Fairbanks Daily News Miner published this excerpt: > > >> > "Andrew Halcro, a declared independent candidate from Anchorage, came > >> > armed with statistics on agricultural productivity. Sarah Palin, a > >> > Republican from Wasilla, said the Matanuska Valley provides a positive > >> > example for other communities interested in agriculture to study." > > >> > On April 18, 2006, Palin and I sat together in a hotel coffee shop > >> > comparing campaign trail notes. As we talked about the debates, Palin > >> > made a comment that highlights the phenomenon that Biden is up > >> > against. > > >> > "Andrew, I watch you at these debates with no notes, no papers, and > >> > yet when asked questions, you spout off facts, figures, and policies, > >> > and I'm amazed. But then I look out into the audience and I ask > >> > myself, 'Does any of this really matter?' " Palin said. > > >> > While policy wonks such as Biden might cringe, it seemed to me that > >> > Palin was simply vocalizing her strength without realizing it. During > >> > the campaign, Palin's knowledge on public policy issues never matured > >> > -- because it didn't have to. Her ability to fill the debate halls > >> > with her presence and her gift of the glittering generality made it > >> > possible for her to rely on populism instead of policy. > > >> > Palin is a master of the nonanswer. She can turn a 60-second response > >> > to a query about her specific solutions to healthcare challenges into > >> > a folksy story about how she's met people on the campaign trail who > >> > face healthcare challenges. All without uttering a word about her > >> > public-policy solutions to healthcare challenges. > > >> > In one debate, a moderator asked the candidates to name a bill the > >> > legislature had recently passed that we didn't like. I named one. > >> > Democratic candidate Tony Knowles named one. But Sarah Palin instead > >> > used her allotted time to criticize the incumbent governor, Frank > >> > Murkowski. Asked to name a bill we did like, the same pattern emerged: > >> > Palin didn't name a bill. > > >> > And when she does answer the actual question asked, she has a canny > >> > ability to connect with the audience on a personal level. For example, > >> > asked to name a major issue that had been ignored during the campaign, > >> > I discussed the health of local communities, Mr. Knowles talked about > >> > affordable healthcare, and Palin talked about ... the need to protect > >> > hunting and fishing rights. > > >> > So what does that mean for Biden? With shorter question-and-answer > >> > times and limited interaction between the two, he should simply ignore > >> > Palin in a respectful manner on the stage and answer the questions as > >> > though he were alone. Any attempt to flex his public-policy knowledge > >> > and show Palin is not ready for prime time will inevitably cast him in > >> > the role of the bully. > > >> > On the other side of the stage, if Palin is to be successful, she > >> > needs to do what she does best: fill the room with her presence and > >> > stick to the scripted sound bites. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
