so the bottom line is palin was lying her flabby ass off ! no surprise there .
On Oct 3, 6:28 am, Cold Water <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FactChecking Biden-Palin Debate > > October 3, 2008 > The candidates were not 100 percent accurate. To say the least. > Summary > Biden and Palin debated, and both mangled some facts. > > a.. Palin mistakenly claimed that troop levels in Iraq had returned to > “pre-surge” levels. Levels are gradually coming down but current plans would > have levels higher than pre-surge numbers through early next year, at least. > a.. Biden incorrectly said “John McCain voted the exact same way” as Obama > on a controversial troop funding bill. The two were actually on opposite > sides. > > b.. Palin repeated a false claim that Obama once voted in favor of higher > taxes on “families” making as little as $42,000 a year. He did not. The > budget bill in question called for an increase only on singles making that > amount, but a family of four would not have been affected unless they made at > least $90,000 a year. > a.. Biden wrongly claimed that McCain “voted the exact same way” as Obama > on the budget bill that contained an increase on singles making as little as > $42,000 a year. McCain voted against it. Biden was referring to an amendment > that didn't address taxes at that income level. > a.. Palin claimed McCain’s health care plan would be “budget neutral,” > costing the government nothing. Independent budget experts estimate McCain's > plan would cost tens of billions each year, though details are too fuzzy to > allow for exact estimates. > > b.. Biden wrongly claimed that McCain had said "he wouldn't even sit down" > with the president of Spain. Actually, McCain didn't reject a meeting, but > simply refused to commit himself one way or the other during an interview. > > a.. Palin wrongly claimed that “millions of small businesses” would see tax > increases under Obama’s tax proposals. At most, several hundred thousand > business owners would see increases. > b.. > c.. A few other misleads of note: > d.. > > a.. Palin said, "We're circulating about $700 billion a year into foreign > countries" for imported oil, repeating an outdated figure often used by > McCain. At oil prices current as of Sept. 30, imports are running at a rate > of about $493 billion per year. > > b.. Biden claimed that McCain said in a magazine article that he wanted > to deregulate the health care industry as the banking industry had been. > That’s taking McCain’s words out of context. As we’ve said before, he was > talking specifically about his proposal to allow the sale of health insurance > across state lines. > > c.. Biden said five times that McCain's tax plan would give oil companies > a "$4 billion tax cut." As we’ve noted previously, McCain’s plan would cut > the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 25 percent — for ALL corporations, > not just oil companies. Biden uses a Democratic think tank's estimate for > what the rate change is worth to the five largest U.S. oil companies. > > d.. Palin threw out an old canard when she criticized Obama for voting > for the 2005 energy bill and said, “that’s what gave those oil companies > those big tax breaks.” It’s a false attack Sen. Hillary Clinton used against > Obama in the primary, and McCain himself has hurled. It’s true that the bill > gave some tax breaks to oil companies, but it also took away others. And > according to the Congressional Research Service, the bill created a slight > net increase in taxes for the oil industry. > > e.. Biden said that Iraq had an "$80 billion surplus." The country was > once projected to have as much as a $79 billion surplus, but no more. The > Iraqis have $29 billion in the bank, and could have $47 billion to $59 > billion by the end of the year, as we noted when Obama used the incorrect > figure. A $21 billion supplemental spending bill, passed by the Iraqi > legislature in August, knocked down the old projection. > > f.. Biden said four times that McCain had voted 20 times against funding > alternative energy. However, in analyzing the Obama campaign's list of votes > after the first presidential debate, we found the number was actually 11. In > the other instances the Obama-Biden campaign cites, McCain voted not against > alternative energy but against mandatory use of alternative energy, or he > voted in favor of allowing exemptions from these mandates. > > -by Brooks Jackson, Viveca Novak, Lori Robertson, Joe Miller, Jessica Henig > and Justin Bank > > For full details on these misstatements, and on additional factual disputes > and dubious claims, please read on to the Analysis section. > > http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/print_factchecking_biden-pali... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. Register and vote in our polls. * Read the latest breaking news, and more. -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
