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On Oct 5, 12:06 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You should avoid paying taxes, as it the working class that support
> the wealthy, which you see very clearly in relation to the acquisition
> of public funds to bail out the parasites on Wall St.
>
> The fact that you are having credit cards shoved down your throat in
> the middle of a credit crisis has its own logic based in the
> contradictions of capitalism which you will start to notice occur on
> all sorts of levels and you don't have to be an account to work it
> out.
>
> No matter how bad the financial situation is, the banks must lend out
> money, that is how they make their profits. So the fact that they are
> in trouble makes it even more imperative to do more business to create
> profits and generate liquidity. Of course with Americans in record
> debt and the proliferation of job loses and housing defaults, it is a
> practice that is bound to backfire, but they have no other choice.
>
> Markets and resources are finite, yet capitalism requires the never
> ending expansion of capital, this is just not possible and this crisis
> is the result.
>
> Out of interest in 1929 the US debt was 150% of GDP, now it is 300%.
> About 1,000,000 housing defaults have occurred so far, while another
> 5,000,000 are expected in the next 2 to 3 years. Puts things in
> perspective a bit doesn't it?
>
> Regarding a Wall St police, the government and Big Business are
> intertwined to a degree when it is impossible to know where one ends
> and the other begins. Together they consciously rob the American
> worker blind. The average congressman is worth $3.9 million, the only
> new police force the US public will see is the Nazi brown shirts,
> which are in training as we speak in the guise of Northcom.
>
> On Oct 6, 12:49 am, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Do you think tha t the IRS will pay each of us for reporting him? Fat
> > chance. I avoid taxes the way that rich people do. I make income
> > disappear...and hopefully into good investments.  I think that all the
> > politicians have frauded many of the taxpayers. Through thist past
> > week, I have had three calls from credit card companies offering to
> > lend me money, so, unless you are an accountant, it is difficult to
> > understand what has been happening. What really needs to happen now,
> > is that there would be a police force on Wall street.
>
> > On Oct 4, 10:17 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Let's see how stupid this post is. 66% of business pays little or no
> > > tax according to the US government.
>
> > > The richest 1% of Americans own more wealth than the bottom 90%
>
> > > The poorest 40% own just 0.2% of total wealth.
>
> > > Any idiot can see, and granted Mark is not just any ordinary idiot,
> > > that the problem within the economy is that the rich have hoarded
> > > everything for themselves while blaming the most impovershed layers
> > > for the economic crisis, while they live in obscene wealth. This
> > > commonly know as blaming the victim.
>
> > > The only defense of such actions can come from the most ignorant
> > > sections of conservative politics, who defend the "American
> > > Nightmare", built on death and barbarism
>
> > > On Oct 5, 5:21 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Talk radio icon Rush Limbaugh is warning Americans about the 30
> > > > percent of the people in the country who pay no federal income taxes,
> > > > because they will forever be in favor of higher taxes on everyone
> > > > else.
>
> > > > Limbaugh quoted extensively on his program today from an op-ed by Brad
> > > > O'Leary, author of "The Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama's War on
> > > > American Values."
>
> > > > "The Audacity of Deceit", released by WND Books, has hit the nation's
> > > > largest bookstores in a head-to-head clash with Obama's release of his
> > > > campaign book, "Change We Can Believe In."
>
> > > > Eric M. Jackson, president of WND books, says it will "shed new light
> > > > on a public figure who's enjoyed a meteoric rise with little
> > > > scrutiny."
>
> > > > "The greatest find, the greatest discovery in the political world is a
> > > > new voting bloc, and his book and his research here is targeted at
> > > > proving that Obama's big voting bloc is the 30 percent-plus of
> > > > Americans who pay no income taxes," Limbaugh said. "These people get
> > > > polled a lot, they are played to constantly, and they are all for ever
> > > > higher taxes on everybody else 'cause it means more for them, in their
> > > > own version of 'trickle down.'"
>
> > > > Citing the article's title, "Forgotten Foot Soldiers In War On
> > > > Success," Limbaugh said,  "That's exactly what the Democrats are
> > > > waging."
>
> > > > Limbaugh quoted from O'Leary: "When writing my latest book, 'The
> > > > Audacity of Deceit: Barack Obama's War on American Values,' I
> > > > discovered a relatively unknown constituency: the 30 percent of
> > > > American voters who do not pay federal income taxes. These Americans
> > > > are exempt from paying income taxes either because their income level
> > > > is below the threshold that would require them to pay, or their total
> > > > deductions leave them with no income-tax liability."
>
> > > > O'Leary continued, "So I set out to determine exactly who these people
> > > > are and what makes them tick. In conjunction with Zogby America, I
> > > > conducted a series of carefully orchestrated polls.
>
> > > > First, I found that 60 percent of likely voters among non-taxpaying
> > > > Americans favor Obama for president, whereas only 31 percent favor
> > > > John McCain. In addition, a majority of the 30 percent of Americans
> > > > who don't pay federal income taxes agree with Obama's $65 billion plan
> > > > to institute taxpayer-funded, universal health coverage. On the other
> > > > side, a majority of the 70 percent of Americans who pay federal income
> > > > taxes (i.e., the folks who would have to foot the bill for this
> > > > boondoggle) are opposed to Obama's health care plan."
>
> > > > O'Leary's work found that 70 percent of Americans shoulder the
> > > > majority of the federal budgetary burden for all Americans now, so
> > > > Obama's claim for a plan to cut taxes for 95 percent of Americans is a
> > > > logical impossibility.
>
> > > > "Is he going to give more money to nontaxpayers?" O'Leary questioned.
> > > > "You can't give a tax cut to 95 percent of Americans if only 70
> > > > percent of them pay federal income taxes in the first place. Then
> > > > again, math may not be Obama's strong suit."
>
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