That's why the bailout is more about the credit crunch than most
appreciate. We can no longer consume without credit.

On Oct 5, 5:40�pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We have the same problem here, after all we are also a society based
> on US consumer culture
>
> On Oct 6, 9:22�am, rigsy03 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
>
> > You are dealing with Americans who have embraced the concept of brands
> > for 60 years plus so it is no surprise that it has leapt from products
> > to ideas, education and culture/society. Part of it is herd instinct-
> > the rest could be a number of things.
>
> > On Oct 5, 1:39 pm, Frank <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > That exactly what Holly is getting at. Branding is all hype no
> > > substance. That it becomes reality for some is a indictment on the
> > > decline of political awareness. It's like the carbon foot print. The
> > > bourgeoise make up a term and it becomes and accepted part of lexicon.
> > > Workers don't have a carbon footprint. We have no power to make the
> > > decisions as to what energy sources are used, we use those provided to
> > > us. If we had a choice, no doubt things would be more than a little
> > > different.
>
> > > Branding is for the non-thinking feeble minded ready to accept
> > > anything they are told at face value. It's a bit like subscribing to
> > > the bogus war on terror, that's branding on a monumental scale.
>
> > > On Oct 6, 5:08 am, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > No.
>
> > > > What I "know" is that it is "reality" to "some".
>
> > > > I still hold out hope that the "majority" of People are not like you
> > > > and yours...
>
> > > > On Oct 5, 11:04 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > gaar,
>
> > > > > The principle is exactly the same. "Branding" has nothing whatsoever
> > > > > to do with reality, it's about changing perceptions of the product.
> > > > > Dosen't make a damn bit of difference if the product is a Presidential
> > > > > candidate, a car or brand of cigarettes. You should now that. In
> > > > > America perceptions ARE reality to most.
>
> > > > > On Oct 5, 12:57 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Oct 5, 10:50 am, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > Face it, it's bullshit. Political "branding" and nothing more.
>
> > > > > > You mean like calling Barack Obama an Agent of Change?
>
> > > > > > That type of Bullshit?- Hide quoted text -
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