Your actions have no effect on the planet. The capitalist who control the means of production decide what energy supply the world uses. Workers do not have a carbon footprint, thats another term introduced for propganda purposes suggesting that the fight against global warming is a collective battle. Rubbish. As for stocks, you can hold on to what you like, and vote for whom you wish, it will make no difference whatsoever............capitalism is finished and that a fact.
On Oct 13, 11:27 pm, margareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What makes you think that it matters who wins the election? There is a > force that is far more powerful than any of the world's governments. > They in fact run the world. The press toward globalism, at the expense > of local workers is the tip of the iceberg. When I was young, there > were dozens of small craft cheese factories in this county alone. > They made top grade cheddar cheese, that had easy acceptance in > European markets. But someone decided thatthe were too inefficeint to > survive. So they were denied access to the chief raw material... fresh > milk. That was astruggle for years. Last month the last of these co- > operatives has shut down. It is painfully obvious now that the goal of > free trade, was to destroy small, independant industries, that for > years have relied on their niche in the market place. > My strategy has been to reduce my expenses, so that i will not have > to use my capital to survive. This fits with advice from my great > grandfather, who always said never to spend your capital. It also fits > with the environmentalists approach. I.e, to consider all my actions, > in terms of the long term effect on the planet. So I will be walking > to the polling booth tomorrow. (it is over a mile, but the exercise > will do me good.) The other program that I am following is to buy > local goods, in season. And to reduce my dependence on imported > luxuries. In other words, put very simply, I am attempting to make > the global economic system irrelevant, to my happiness. > Gaar, just a word of unsolicited advice..... take a vacation. There is > little or nothing you can do about the economy in an case, and the > worry, and the fear will take their toll. At this point I am making a > point of not knowing how much money I have lost,,,, It is not that > long ago, that I didn't have nearly that muchto lose. I somehow am > wondering if the biggest problem is the panic, people are always going > to need homes, and they will always need to have access to heat for > their homes. If the stocks you hold were any good, keep them, they > will recover. > > On Oct 13, 7:44 am, "\"Lone Wolf\"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Here an interesting paragraph from something I am reading at the > > moment > > > The epicenter of the economic crisis that produced the world > > Depression of the 1930s was the decline of European capitalism. Europe > > never really recovered from World War I. As a result, the US lacked > > sufficient markets for its surplus goods and surplus capital. The > > crisis in the US was overcome only by the immense stimulus provided by > > war production for World War II. In the war, the US demonstrated the > > superiority of its advanced production methods, far outstripping the > > capacity of Germany and Japan to turn out planes, ships, tanks and > > bullets and feed and equip their soldiers. At the end of the war, the > > supreme power of American capitalism was rooted in its industrial > > might, more than its military supremacy. > > > To give some indication of the preponderance of American industry in > > the decade following the war: four out of every five cars sold > > throughout the world were produced in the US; America, which had 6 > > percent of the world’s population, produced and consumed one-half of > > the world’s goods. America’s gross domestic product rose from $100 > > billion in 1940 to $300 billion in 1950 and $500 billion in 1960. > > > What was the process that transformed the United States from the > > industrial hegemon of the post-war boom period to the massively > > leveraged, industrially anemic center of global financial parasitism > > of today? Fundamentally, American imperialism foundered on the > > contradiction between world economy and the nation-state framework > > within which capitalist economies must develop. In the end, no single > > capitalist state, even one as rich as the United States, could resolve > > the problems of global capitalism. > > > On Oct 12, 9:01 pm, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Well Lone Wolf, we are once again living in interesting times. > > > > In one of your earlier posts you said "Capitalism rewards the most > > > venal power hungry reprobates with position and power, not endeavour, > > > integrity and altruistic honesty." Well, you're half right, it does > > > reward venal power hungry reprobates but it also rewards the people > > > with endeavour, integrity and altruistic honesty. The problem is that > > > there are too many of the former and not enough of the latter. > > > > Capitalism is certainly not a perfect system but humanity is yet to > > > invent a system that isn't subject to corruption. Unfortunately the > > > problem is not the system, it's us. > > > > By the way, good luck with the election. If McCain and the pitbull win > > > I think I might leave the planet!- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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