He is a Main Player in the Financial disaster we are facing as a
Nation.

And Loony Liberals are willing to ignore that in order to gain
Political power...


On Oct 13, 12:59 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Exactly.  I would have no trouble voting for him, if he meant any of
> it.  He doesn't.  He's a hollow, spineless douche, not much more.  And
> the faux libbies just fall in line and drop their drawers... in
> unison.  Just as he's willing to lose a war to win an election,
> they're willing to trash all real libbie/Dem ideas to win an
> election.  You look at his "offical" positions on all the key issues
> and he Out-Bushes McCain and then again.  He's the kind of guy who'd
> shake your hand and piss on your leg at the same time.
>
> On Oct 13, 2:50 pm, Gaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > It seems Obama will "say" anything to get Elected...
>
> > The trick is to LOOK at his Record, so you can SEE what he will in
> > fact do.
>
> > On Oct 13, 12:44 pm, Kamakazee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > He can't get elected otherwise:
>
> > > "Commentary: Obama and Bush are not so far apart
> > > Story Highlights
>
> > > WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Since Barack Obama incessantly makes the case that
> > > a John McCain administration would equate to another Bush term, it's
> > > worth looking at just how much Sen. Obama himself is in agreement with
> > > the unpopular president.
>
> > > Does that mean that he, too, would be a repeat of President Bush? If
> > > one were to apply his logic, maybe so.
>
> > > Here are 20 reasons why:
>
> > > 1. Abstinence: Bush expanded community-based abstinence education
> > > during his term, including a $28 million budget increase for 2009 in
> > > an effort to "Teach both abstinence and contraception to teens." Obama
> > > concurred in April when he said: "We want to make sure that, even as
> > > we are teaching responsible sexuality and we are teaching abstinence
> > > to children, that we are also making sure that they've got enough
> > > understanding about contraception."
>
> > > 2. Affirmative action: Bush said of the 2003 University of Michigan
> > > affirmative action case: "I strongly support diversity of all kinds,
> > > including racial diversity in higher education. But the method used by
> > > the University of Michigan to achieve this important goal is
> > > fundamentally flawed" -- because it depended solely on race. Bush has
> > > said other factors, such as socioeconomic status, should be
> > > considered, which would include poor white students.
>
> > > Obama now agrees with that view. "Inside Higher Ed" referred in May to
> > > "Obama's suggestion that he may be ready to change the focus of
> > > affirmative action policies in higher education -- away from race to
> > > economic class. ... In his debate in Philadelphia with Hillary
> > > Clinton, he said in response to a question, that his own privileged
> > > daughters do not deserve affirmative action preferences, and that
> > > working-class students of all colors do."
>
> > > 3. Budgets: Obama voted for Bush's budgets, which included 19 spending
> > > bills.
>
> > > 4. Capital punishment: Like Bush, Obama supports capital punishment.
> > > He spoke out in opposition to the recent Supreme Court decision that
> > > denied the death penalty for child rapists. And in his 2006 memoir,
> > > Obama said, "I believe there are some crimes -- mass murder, the rape
> > > and murder of a child -- so heinous that the community is justified in
> > > expressing the full measure of its outrage by meting out the ultimate
> > > punishment."
>
> > > 5. Education: Obama supports charter schools, as does Bush, and merit
> > > pay for teachers, and he voted in favor of supporting the president's
> > > 21st Century Community Learning Centers.
>
> > > 6. Economics: Obama told reporters that he agreed with Treasury
> > > Secretary Henry Paulson and Bush's bailout package, then voted for the
> > > $700 billion plan. And despite routinely criticizing "the Bush tax
> > > cuts," Obama is now offering tax cuts of his own (although only for
> > > the 95 percent of taxpayers earning less than $250,000 a year). What a
> > > concept!
>
> > > 7. Energy: In signing the $12.3 billion Energy Policy Act of 2005,
> > > Bush said it "promotes dependable, affordable, and environmentally
> > > sound production and distribution of energy for America's future."
> > > Obama voted for the energy plan and called it a "first step toward
> > > decreasing America's dependence on foreign oil."
>
> > > 8. Faith-based initiatives/fatherhood: Bush is well known for his
> > > commitment to the faith-based community -- with initiatives for the
> > > poor and on fatherhood -- and he expanded the ability to allow faith-
> > > based providers a seat at the funding table. Obama, who has railed
> > > against Bush's efforts, has still found a way to embrace them, saying
> > > he would "expand" faith-based initiatives. He used his Father's Day
> > > speech to echo the president's Fatherhood Initiative.
>
> > > 9. FISA: Of the Senate bill passage that rewrote intelligence laws to
> > > grant immunity to telecommunications companies that participated in
> > > the Bush administration's wiretapping program, Bush said: "This vital
> > > intelligence bill will allow our national security professionals to
> > > quickly and effectively monitor the plans of terrorists outside the
> > > United States, while respecting the liberties of the American people."
>
> > > Obama, who supported it, after opposing FISA last year, said: "Given
> > > the grave threats that we face, our national security agencies must
> > > have the capability to gather intelligence and track down terrorists
> > > before they strike, while respecting the rule of law and the privacy
> > > and civil liberties of the American people." Almost identical, huh?
> > > Are we sure they don't share the same speechwriter? But Obama did take
> > > heat for his change of heart, as The Washington Post reported that:
> > > "The Illinois senator's reversal on the issue has angered liberal
> > > groups." Guess you can't please everyone.
>
> > > 10. Gay marriage: Both Obama and Bush agree that marriage is and
> > > should remain between one man and one woman. As far back as 2004,
> > > Obama said: "Gays ... should not marry." And in a 2007 Senate debate,
> > > he said: "I agree with most Americans, with Democrats and Republicans,
> > > with Vice President Cheney, with over 2,000 religious leaders of all
> > > different beliefs, that decisions about marriage, as they always have,
> > > should be left to the states. ... Personally, I do believe that
> > > marriage is between a man and a woman."
>
> > > 11. Global AIDS: Obama has said the U.S. must "lead the global fight
> > > against the AIDS virus." And earlier this year, he encouraged
> > > lawmakers to "Use whatever works with AIDS, including teaching
> > > abstinence." Obama has given Bush kudos for his efforts to combat
> > > global AIDS and the record amount of funding ($15 billion over 5
> > > years) the president has earmarked for the fight. Obama said in
> > > September, "I think President Bush -- and many of you here today --
> > > have shown real leadership in the fight against HIV/AIDS."
>
> > > 12. Health care: While they don't share similar views on universal
> > > health care coverage, Bush and Obama agree that the problem with
> > > health care is "about affordability" and there is a need to address
> > > minority health concerns with more coverage and targeting. That is why
> > > Bush expanded community health care centers, covering the uninsured
> > > and targeting urban areas, to the tune of $1.5 billion for 1,200
> > > centers "coast to coast."
>
> > > 13. Middle-class tax cuts: While he hasn't voted for such cuts, Obama
> > > is pushing his biggest economic initiative yet: tax cuts for the
> > > middle class. "We've got to help the middle class," Obama said
> > > Tuesday. Perhaps unbeknownst to him, Bush has already been there, done
> > > that. In signing the 2001 Tax Cut Bill, Bush said: "Tax relief is an
> > > achievement for families struggling to enter the middle class. For
> > > hard-working lower-income families, we have cut the bottom rate of
> > > federal income tax from 15 percent to 10 percent. We doubled the per-
> > > child tax credit to $1,000, and made it refundable. ... Tax relief is
> > > an achievement for middle-class families squeezed by high energy
> > > prices and credit card debt."
>
> > > 14. Minority homeownership: Obama adopted the Congressional Black
> > > Caucus principles "to increase minority homeownership" as it is "one
> > > of the best wealth-creation vehicles for minority families." These
> > > principles were developed as part of Bush's vision to expand minority
> > > homeownership to 5.5 million new homeowners by 2010. "Across our
> > > nation, every citizen, regardless of race, creed, color or place of
> > > birth, should have the opportunity to become a homeowner," Bush said.
>
> > > Similar comparisons can be drawn for their positions on small
> > > businesses and on businesses owned by women and minorities.
>
> > > 15. National security: Obama voted yes on preauthorizing the much
> > > ballyhooed Patriot Act, sought by the Bush administration.
>
> > > 16. Offshore drilling: Bush has consistently pushed for drilling
> > > offshore, while Obama, who until recently opposed it, now says he's
> > > for it. In Nashville, Tennessee, he told an audience: "We're going to
> > > have to explore new ways to get more oil, and that includes offshore
> > > drilling."
>
> > > 17. Racial profiling: Obama's campaign literature states that he will
> > > call for a ban on racial profiling, even though Bush issued a
> > > directive that banned racial profiling in 2001. In his order, Bush
> > > said to the attorney general: "I hereby direct you to review the use
> > > by federal law enforcement authorities of race as a factor in
> > > conducting stops, searches and other investigative procedures. ... I
> > > further direct that you report back to me with your findings and
> > > recommendations for the improvement of the just and equal
> > > administration of our nation's laws."
>
> > > 18. Religion: It is widely known that Obama is a person of faith.
>
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