The group that Ayers and Dohrn headed, the Weather Underground, robbed a Brinks truck and killed a security guard and two cops. Dohrn did a year in jail for refusing to cooperate with the court in their prosecution. I guess you think that Charlie Manson was innocent too, jackass.
On Oct 13, 11:37 am, creusa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You Mark are a repulsive Neanderthal racist who uses the word "black" > like a swear word. Yet you say you uphold the Constitution,,,the very > Constitution which guarantees equality and the right to opportunity > to every person in the US REGARDLESS of race or religion. > It is right and proper that Obama has not risen to the racist and > bigoted slurs of Palin. He is far better for that. Yet lest you not > forget who bombed and REALLY murdered people in Oklahoma not so long > ago, umlike Ayers who never killed anyone...a right wing extremist > nutter. > creusa > > On Oct 13, 2:11 pm, Hollywood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > mark, > > > You have a rather loose definition of the word "friends". > > > On Oct 13, 5:59 am, mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > so let's see, he is friends with farrakan, friends with ayers, friends > > > with wright, friends with dhorn, all terrorists in their own right. > > > show me who your friends are and I will show you what you are up > > > too. > > > > On Oct 13, 4:43 am, "[ the last patriotic Republican ]" > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > The Terrorist Barack Hussein Obamahttp://www.truthout.org/101208B > > > > Frank Rich believes that, "the McCain campaign has crossed the line > > > > between tough negative campaigning and inciting vigilantism." (Photo: > > > > Reuters) > > > > If you think way back to the start of this marathon campaign, back > > > > when it seemed preposterous that any black man could be a serious > > > > presidential contender, then you remember the biggest fear about > > > > Barack Obama: a crazy person might take a shot at him. > > > > > Some voters told reporters that they didn't want Obama to run, let > > > > alone win, should his very presence unleash the demons who have > > > > stalked America from Lincoln to King. After consultation with > > > > Congress, Michael Chertoff, the homeland security secretary, gave > > > > Obama a Secret Service detail earlier than any presidential candidate > > > > in our history - in May 2007, some eight months before the first > > > > Democratic primaries. > > > > > 'I've got the best protection in the world, so stop worrying,' > > > > Obama reassured his supporters. Eventually the country got conditioned > > > > to his appearing in large arenas without incident (though I confess > > > > that the first loud burst of fireworks at the end of his convention > > > > stadium speech gave me a start). In America, nothing does succeed like > > > > success. The fear receded. > > > > > Until now. At McCain-Palin rallies, the raucous and insistent > > > > cries of 'Treason!' and 'Terrorist!' and 'Kill him!' and 'Off with his > > > > head!' as well as the uninhibited slinging of racial epithets, are > > > > actually something new in a campaign that has seen almost every > > > > conceivable twist. They are alarms. Doing nothing is not an option. > > > > > All's fair in politics. John McCain and Sarah Palin have every > > > > right to bring up William Ayers, even if his connection to Obama is > > > > minor, even if Ayers's Weather Underground history dates back to > > > > Obama's childhood, even if establishment Republicans and Democrats > > > > alike have collaborated with the present-day Ayers in educational > > > > reform. But it's not just the old Joe McCarthyesque guilt-by- > > > > association game, however spurious, that's going on here. Don't for an > > > > instant believe the many mindlessly 'even-handed' journalists who keep > > > > saying that the McCain campaign's use of Ayers is the moral or > > > > political equivalent of the Obama campaign's hammering on Charles > > > > Keating. > > > > > What makes them different, and what has pumped up the Weimar-like > > > > rage at McCain-Palin rallies, is the violent escalation in rhetoric, > > > > especially (though not exclusively) by Palin. Obama 'launched his > > > > political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist.' He is > > > > 'palling around with terrorists' (note the plural noun). Obama is 'not > > > > a man who sees America the way you and I see America.' Wielding a > > > > wildly out-of-context Obama quote, Palin slurs him as an enemy of > > > > American troops. > > > > > By the time McCain asks the crowd 'Who is the real Barack Obama?' > > > > it's no surprise that someone cries out 'Terrorist!' The rhetorical > > > > conflation of Obama with terrorism is complete. It is stoked further > > > > by the repeated invocation of Obama's middle name by surrogates > > > > introducing McCain and Palin at these rallies. This sleight of hand at > > > > once synchronizes with the poisonous Obama-is-a-Muslim e-mail blasts > > > > and shifts the brand of terrorism from Ayers's Vietnam-era variety to > > > > the radical Islamic threats of today. > > > > > That's a far cry from simply accusing Obama of being a guilty-by- > > > > association radical leftist. Obama is being branded as a potential > > > > killer and an accessory to past attempts at murder. 'Barack Obama's > > > > friend tried to kill my family' was how a McCain press release last > > > > week packaged the remembrance of a Weather Underground incident from > > > > 1970 - when Obama was 8. > > > > > We all know what punishment fits the crime of murder, or even > > > > potential murder, if the security of post-9/11 America is at stake. We > > > > all know how self-appointed 'patriotic' martyrs always justify taking > > > > the law into their own hands. > > > > > Obama can hardly be held accountable for Ayers's behavior 40 years > > > > ago, but at least McCain and Palin can try to take some responsibility > > > > for the behavior of their own supporters in 2008. What's troubling > > > > here is not only the candidates' loose inflammatory talk but also > > > > their refusal to step in promptly and strongly when someone responds > > > > to it with bloodthirsty threats in a crowded arena. Joe Biden had it > > > > exactly right when he expressed concern last week that 'a leading > > > > American politician who might be vice president of the United States > > > > would not just stop midsentence and turn and condemn that.' To stay > > > > silent is to pour gas on the fires. > > > > > It wasn't always thus with McCain. In February he loudly > > > > disassociated himself from a speaker who brayed 'Barack Hussein Obama' > > > > when introducing him at a rally in Ohio. Now McCain either backpedals > > > > with tardy, pro forma expressions of respect for his opponent or lets > > > > second-tier campaign underlings release boilerplate disavowals after > > > > ugly incidents like the chilling Jim Crow-era flashback last week when > > > > a Florida sheriff ranted about 'Barack Hussein Obama' at a Palin rally > > > > while in full uniform. > > > > > From the start, there have always been two separate but equal > > > > questions about race in this election. Is there still enough racism in > > > > America to prevent a black man from being elected president no matter > > > > what? And, will Republicans play the race card? The jury is out on the > > > > first question until Nov. 4. But we now have the unambiguous answer to > > > > the second: Yes. > > > > > McCain, who is no racist, turned to this desperate strategy only > > > > as Obama started to pull ahead. The tone was set at the Republican > > > > convention, with Rudy Giuliani's mocking dismissal of Obama as an > > > > 'only in America' affirmative-action baby. We also learned then that > > > > the McCain campaign had recruited as a Palin handler none other than > > > > Tucker Eskew, the South Carolina consultant who had worked for George > > > > W. Bush in the notorious 2000 G.O.P. primary battle where the McCains > > > > and their adopted Bangladeshi daughter were slimed by vicious racist > > > > rumors. > > > > > No less disconcerting was a still-unexplained passage of Palin's > > > > convention speech: Her use of an unattributed quote praising small- > > > > town America (as opposed to, say, Chicago and its community > > > > organizers) from Westbrook Pegler, the mid-century Hearst columnist > > > > famous for his anti-Semitism, racism and violent rhetorical excess. > > > > After an assassin tried to kill F.D.R. at a Florida rally and murdered > > > > Chicago's mayor instead in 1933, Pegler wrote that it was 'regrettable > > > > that Giuseppe Zangara shot the wrong man.' In the '60s, Pegler had a > > > > wish for Bobby Kennedy: 'Some white patriot of the Southern tier will > > > > spatter his spoonful of brains in public premises before the snow > > > > falls.' > > > > > This is the writer who found his way into a speech by a potential > > > > vice president at a national political convention. It's astonishing > > > > there's been no demand for a public accounting from the McCain > > > > campaign. Imagine if Obama had quoted a Black Panther or Louis > > > > Farrakhan - or William Ayers - in Denver.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ * It's active and moderated. 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