We've established that you don't know the definition of a "Neo-Con"; it shouldn't be any surprise to you that some buster doesn't either.....
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 5:20 PM, MJ <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Yeah ... THAT is it. > > Regard$, > --MJ > > Neocons *are* true conservatives. They are the true paleocons. They have > returned to the values that have always informed true conservativism ever > since the days of Alexander Hamilton: a large, intrusive federal > government; extensive regulation of business, with an eye to assisting > favored constituents; hostility to immigrants and those abroad who would > like to trade with Americans; and a bellicose foreign policy. -- Jeff > Riggenbach > > > > > At 10:28 AM 1/17/2014, you wrote: > > Obviously, Jacob Heilbrun doesn't know what the definition of a "Neo-Con" > is..... > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:25 PM, plainolamerican <[email protected]> > wrote: > > - JACOB HEILBRUNN <http://nationalinterest.org/blog/jacob-heilbrunn> Share > on > email<http://nationalinterest.org/blog/jacob-heilbrunn/john-mccains-neocon-manifesto-7404#> > Share > on > twitter<http://nationalinterest.org/blog/jacob-heilbrunn/john-mccains-neocon-manifesto-7404#> > Share > on > facebook<http://nationalinterest.org/blog/jacob-heilbrunn/john-mccains-neocon-manifesto-7404#> > Share > on > digg<http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=300&winname=addthis&pub=nationalinterest&source=tbx-300&lng=en-US&s=digg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnationalinterest.org%2Fblog%2Fjacob-heilbrunn%2Fjohn-mccains-neocon-manifesto-7404&title=John%20McCain%27s%20Neocon%20Manifesto%20%7C%20The%20National%20Interest%20Blog&ate=AT-nationalinterest/-/-/52d8b033af094f77/2&frommenu=1&uid=52d8b033050151f3&ct=1&pre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F&tt=0&captcha_provider=nucaptcha>|More > Sharing > ServicesMore<http://www.addthis.com/bookmark.php?v=250&username=nationalinterest> > > [image: Printer-friendly version] > > <http://nationalinterest.org/print/blog/jacob-heilbrunn/john-mccains-neocon-manifesto-7404> > Jacob Heilbrunn<http://nationalinterest.org/profile/jacob-heilbrunn> > | > August 29, 2012 > > It's no secret that John McCain, once a prominent realist, has > steadily converted to neoconservatism over the past two decades. He is > now > the movement's most visible champion, which is to say that McCain has > been > at the forefront of championing almost every bad idea of the past > decade, > including serving as a cheerleader for the war in Iraq. > > McCain's vision of American power and influence around the globe is > so open-ended that it constitutes an invitation for hegemony, something > that China is bound to reject. One thing that is missing in McCain's > essay > is that the Iraq War forms the origins of much of the current mess. The > Bush administration expended trillions of dollars—with more to come in > the > form of payments to veterans over the next decades—trying to use Iraq > as a > demonstration shot for freedom in the rest of the Middle East. > > Another flaw in McCain's analysis is that he exaggerates the Obama > administration's passivity abroad. McCain suggests that Obama has > alienated > allies such as Israel. He writes, > > This is the feeling in Israel and the Gulf, where the threat of a > nuclear-armed Iran is existential, but trust in America's willingness to > address the problem has never been lower. > > Really? Israel itself is experiencing a vigorous debate over > whether it makes sense to bomb Iran—something that McCain does not > demand > that Obama accomplish, saying rather that there needs to be a realistic > national-security threat. But it's difficult to discern how Obama could > be > much more accommodating to Israel, short of giving it carte blanche, > which, > I guess, is what would amount to a realistic threat for McCain. > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 4:49:21 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > Not an opinion Plain Ol. Fact: Neither Graham or McCain are > former registered Democrats. > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:41 PM, plainolamerican < > [email protected] <http://??>> wrote: > opinion noted. > they will all sacrifice American interests for israel. > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:14:35 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > By definition, neither McCain nor the "Chinless Wonder" Lindsey > Graham are "Neo-Cons". Fatalists? Most definitely, but not Neo-Cons. > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:52 PM, plainolamerican < > [email protected] <http://??>> wrote: > McCain, Graham, Menendez > --- > 3 zionists who must be removed from our government asap by any > means necessary. > > On Tuesday, January 14, 2014 8:34:31 PM UTC-6, MJ wrote: > > McCain and Graham Go To Work Against Iran Agreement > Written by Daniel > McAdams<http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/congress-alert.aspx?author=Daniel+McAdams> > Tuesday January 14, 2014 > > Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC) continue to > pull out all stops in attempt to scuttle the six-month interim agreement > between the P5+1 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P5+1> and Iran. The > agreement is meant to provide some space for negotiations to continue > between the two sides while allowing for some confidence to be built in > place of a decades-long hostile relationship. > > The six month water-testing agreement is not meant as a permanent > agreement nor is it a legally-binding Chapter VII UNSC resolution. > > Nevertheless, the neocons, led by Messrs McCain and Graham, are > determined to plant as many IEDs along the road to diplomatic > resolution as > possible. > > Today McCain and Graham issued another joint > release<http://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=abac1126-8b42-478c-bbc6-a12d053bcc85>, > this time raising the red flag over a rumor they heard that the > agreement > included some implementation language to which they had not yet been > privy. > > What has the Senators so concerned? Rumors that for the next six > months: Iran will be permitted to keep all of its nuclear > facilities open, continue its enrichment of uranium, and maintain and > even > expand its nuclear research, including into next-generation centrifuges. > > Even if this "nonpaper <http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/non-paper> " > has been included as part of the six-month deal, it is hardly the > revelation that the Senators would have us to believe. All of these > activities are already permitted by the Nuclear Non-Proliferation > Treaty of > which Iran is a signatory. > > Yes, Iran is already allowed to engage in these activities > according to existing international treaty to which the US is also a > party, > meaning the US recognizes this existing right. > > But the Senators are trying to make something of nothing to push > their pet project: passage of Sens. Menendez and Kirk's green light to > war > legislation, the Nuclear Weapon Free Iran Act. > > They conclude their hyperactive press release by pushing their real > agenda: these reports only add greater urgency to the calls from an > increasing number of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle to > pass > new bipartisan sanctions legislation as soon as possible. > > As Patrick Buchanan points > out<http://original.antiwar.com/buchanan/2014/01/13/a-blank-check-for-war-on-iran/>today: > When > the interim agreement was reached, it was denounced by neocons as > �worse > than Munich.� Now the War Party piously contends this Senate bill is > simply an �insurance policy� to ensure that the terms of the deal > are > met and a final deal reached. It is nothing of the sort. This bill > is a project of AIPAC, the Israeli lobby, designed to sabotage and > scuttle > the Geneva talks by telling Tehran: Either capitulate and dismantle all > your enrichment facilities, or face more severe sanctions which will > put us > on the road to war. What terrifies AIPAC and Bibi is not an > American war on Iran, but an American rapprochement with Iran. Who > are the leaders of the push for S.1881? Sens. Mark Kirk and Robert > Menendez, the biggest recipients of AIPAC campaign cash. > > Expect more hysterics from McCain, Graham, Menendez, and the rest > of the neocons. For a handy guide to which of them is likely to scream > the > loudest, please consult Professor Michael Rozeff's list > here<http://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/u-s-senators-are-nearly-all-stooges-for-israel/>. > > > > > http://ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/congress-alert/2014/january/14/mccain-and-graham-go-to-work-against-iran-agreement.aspx > > -- > -- > Thanks for being part of "PoliticalForum" at Google Groups. > For options & help see http://groups.google.com/group/PoliticalForum > > * Visit our other community at http://www.PoliticalForum.com/ > * It's active and moderated. 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