I don't think any Republican is asking for or demanding military action Plain Ol. That of course, would be ridiculous. Under the Obama Administration, there is no penalty for Russia invading a sovereign Nation, and of course, under conservative leadership, that would not happen.....There would be severe penalties, but then again, --- Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War
Allied intervention in the Russian Civil War Part of the Russian Civil War <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War> [image: Wladiwostok Parade 1918.jpg]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wladiwostok_Parade_1918.jpg> Allied troops parading in Vladivostok<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladivostok>, 1918. Date 1918–20 1922 Japanese withdrawal from Siberia Location Former Russian Empire<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Empire>, Mongolia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolia> Result Allied withdrawal from Russia Bolshevik victory over White Army<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Movement> Belligerents [image: Russia] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia> White movement <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_movement> [image: United Kingdom] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom> British Empire <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Empire> - United Kingdom <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom> - Australia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia> - Canada <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada> - India <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Raj> Japan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Japan> Czechoslovakia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia> Greece <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Greece> Poland <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poland> United States <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States> France <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/France> Romania <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Romania> Serbia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Serbia> Italy <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy> [image: Republic of China (1912–1949)]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_China_%281912%E2%80%931949%29> China <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beiyang_Government> Russian SFSR<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Far Eastern Republic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eastern_Republic> Latvian SSR<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latvian_Socialist_Soviet_Republic> Ukrainian SSR<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic> Commune of Estonia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commune_of_the_Working_People_of_Estonia> Mongolian communists<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongolian_People%27s_Party> Commanders and leaders Various commanders [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Vladimir Lenin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Lenin> [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Leon Trotsky <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Trotsky> [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Mikhail Tukhachevsky <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Tukhachevsky> [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Fedor Raskolnikov <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Raskolnikov> [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Joseph Stalin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin> [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Dmitry Zhloba <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dmitry_Zhloba> [image: Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic> Pavel Dybenko <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Dybenko> Strength see below for a detailed breakdown<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War#Foreign_forces_throughout_Russia> Unknown Casualties and losses Unknown [show<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War#> ] - v <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Campaignbox_Russian_Civil_War> - t<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Campaignbox_Russian_Civil_War> - e<http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Campaignbox_Russian_Civil_War&action=edit> Theaters of Russian Civil War<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War> The *Allied intervention* was a multi-national military expedition<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_expedition>launched during the Russian Civil War <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Civil_War> in 1918. The initial goals were to help the Czechoslovak Legions<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovak_Legions>, secure supplies of munitions and armaments in Russian ports, and re-establish the Eastern front<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_%28World_War_I%29>. After winning the war in Europe, the Allied powers<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allies_of_World_War_I>militarily backed the anti- Bolshevik <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolshevik> White forces<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Movement>in Russia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russia>. Allied efforts were hampered by divided objectives, lack of an overarching strategy, war weariness and a lack of public support <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_front>. These factors, together with the evacuation of the Czechoslovak Legion and the deteriorating situation compelled the Allies to withdraw from North Russia<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Russia_Campaign>and Siberia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_Intervention_in_Siberia> in 1920, though Japanese forces <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_of_Japan>occupied parts of Siberia until 1922 and the northern half of Sakhalin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sakhalin> until 1925.[1]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allied_intervention_in_the_Russian_Civil_War#cite_note-beyer-1> The Allied intervention and its foreign troops were effectively used by the Bolsheviks to argue that their enemies were backed by Western capitalists. The Bolsheviks were eventually victorious and established the Soviet Union<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union> . I doubt very seriously Putin would be doing what he's doing now, had a conservative President been in office. --- speculation noted ... not shared. what was nixon doing in 1968 when the russians invaded the checks? On Monday, March 3, 2014 5:29:02 PM UTC-6, KeithInTampa wrote: > > I don't think any Republican is asking for or demanding military action > Plain Ol. That of course, would be ridiculous. > > Under the Obama Administration, there is no penalty for Russia invading a > sovereign Nation, and of course, under conservative leadership, that would > not happen.....There would be severe penalties, but then again, I doubt > very seriously Putin would be doing what he's doing now, had a conservative > President been in office. > > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 5:31 PM, Kurt Godel <[email protected]<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Nah, it's that Russia won't permit teaching homosexuality to children. >> That's worth WWIII to liberals. >> >> >> On Monday, March 3, 2014 4:31:15 PM UTC-5, plainolamerican wrote: >>> >>> the effects of the anti-communism kool aid is still lingering in DC. >>> >>> US warmongers who want to help Ukraine are free to go kill and die for >>> another country. >>> Their passports should be collected as they leave. >>> >>> >>> On Monday, March 3, 2014 2:18:07 PM UTC-6, Travis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/sen- >>>> graham-when-obama-threatens-putin-everybodys-eyes-roll >>>> >>>> >>>> When Obama Threatens Putin, 'Everybody's Eyes Roll' >>>> >>>> *March 3, 2014 - 5:28 AM * >>>> *------------------------------* >>>> >>>> *By Susan Jones <http://cnsnews.com/source/susan-jones>* >>>> >>>> *Subscribe to Susan Jones <http://cnsnews.com/source/72540/feed> RSS* >>>> >>>> *Follow Susan Jones <https://twitter.com/SJonesCNS> on Twitter* >>>> >>>> [image: graham] <http://cnsnews.com/image/graham-5> >>>> >>>> Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) (AP File Photo) >>>> >>>> (CNSNews.com) - President Barack Obama should "stop going on television >>>> and trying to threaten thugs and dictators," because "it's not his strong >>>> suit," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) told CNN's "State of the Union" with >>>> Candy Crowley on Sunday. >>>> >>>> "Every time the president goes on national television and threatens >>>> Putin or anyone like Putin, everybody's eyes roll, including mine. We have >>>> a weak and indecisive president that invites aggression. President Obama >>>> needs to do something. How about this: suspend Russian membership in the >>>> G-8, in the G-20, at least for a year, starting right now, and for every >>>> day they stay in their Crimea, add to the suspension. Do something." >>>> >>>> Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), appearing with Graham, said he expects the >>>> president to speak out against Putin's "bully" tactics, and he noted that >>>> the administration already has suggested removing Russia from the G-8. >>>> >>>> "Now what Congress has to do, what the Senate should do, quickly, is a >>>> resolution condemning what Putin has done; second, saying that if Ukraine >>>> will stand up for real reform, that we're going to back them through the >>>> IMF, and making it clear to our allies in NATO that that alliance is >>>> strong, and neighbors of Russia -- that we are going to do everything in >>>> our power to discourage further aggression by Putin." >>>> >>>> Durbin said Putin must be made to feel like "there's a price to pay for >>>> this kind of conduct." >>>> >>>> Graham said he'd like to "create a democratic noose around Putin's >>>> Russia," by accelerating Georgia's NATO membership. >>>> >>>> "If I were President Obama, I would re-engage Poland and the Czech >>>> Republic regarding missile defense," Graham said. "I would admit Georgia >>>> to >>>> NATO. I would have a larger military presence in the Balkans. To NATO >>>> members who are threatened by Russia, I would fly the NATO flag as >>>> strongly >>>> as I could around Putin. I would suspend his membership in the G-8. It >>>> would be the G-7. The G-20 would become the G-19, at least for a year. And >>>> every day he stays in the Ukraine, I would add to it." >>>> >>>> Russia must be "isolated," Graham said, and if it is not -- "shame on >>>> us all." >>>> >>>> "This is an invasion," Graham said. "The Crimea is part of the Ukraine. >>>> This is not the way you settle disputes. Can China go in and take islands >>>> away from Japan? The Iranians are watching. If we do not decisively push >>>> back against Putin and make him weaker and all of our friends in the >>>> region >>>> stronger, the Iranians are going to misunderstand yet again -- (inaudible) >>>> -- regarding their nuclear program. >>>> >>>> "So much is at stake. 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